broose

I am located in Canada and am trying to get some information and hoping someone in the Pacific Rim can help me.

I am trying to find out if the following part numbers are available from Mazda in Japan and if so, at what cost? Could someone be so kind as to call a dealer and make this inquire for me. Your help with this matter is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your help.

Mazda part numbers:

FE15 51 650A - rear fog light (light assembly only)
F151 V7 255 - rear fog light dash switch button
F152 V7 255 - rear fog light dash switch button

For the two dash switch buttons, one is for cars with DSC, one is without. Could you please clarify which is for DSC and which one is for without.

Also, could someone please translate the following attachment from Japanese to English. I hope the attachment works properly.

Again, I would greatly appreciate it if someone could help me out with this. Thanks again.

canzoomer

I have been bringing in parts from Japan already, as a friend of mine picks them up for me.

We have negotiated a discount from one of the dealers in Tokyo.
20,000 Yen for the fog light
List price is 27,000 Yen

I can ask him to find out about the switch options.
We have to pay the Japanese 5% sales tax on top of that, and freight costs to get the parts here.

Most people who have them have wired them to the fog light circuit, so you do not need a separate switch.

If interested email me off list at:
maurice@harddata.com

broose

Thanks Canzoomer. I'm looking at just wiring the light directly to the switch at the dash. The installation instructions that come with the rear fog light kit appear overly complicated. I prefer to just keep it simple and have it independent of anything else. I do want it to look stock which is why I'm trying to see if I can get just the light assembly and dash switch by themselves, instead of buying a high priced kit (which includes a CPU) and leaving most of the pieces in the box.

Could your friend in Japan investigate whether or not the part numbers mentioned in my post above are available from Mazda?

canzoomer

Already did. Yes, they are also available.
Will probably know the price tonight.

broose

YOU ARE THE BEST! An asset to this forum! I look forward to hearing from again soon. I'll send you an e-mail offline as I should get a quote from you on a couple other items as well. Thanks.

canzoomer

BTW, did you already get that illuminated shift know you use as an avatar?
It costs 27,000 yen, but with my discount i can provide it here in Canada at that price..
Still, not cheap, at $319
Kit includes the wiring harness for it, which ties into the dash light harness.

Ta!

Ringer

Canzoomer,

You are very knowledgeable and informative, thanks. Are you the guy the Canadian forumers are trying to ostracize? I hope you have settled your differences with Mazda Canada? Have you changed your mind and retained your RX8?

Armed with your info, I checked my rear fog light switch logic again. It goes : if headlights or front fog lights on, pushing the rear fog light switch on dash once will turn it on. Once more to turn off and you have to remember that because there's no indicator light on the instrument panel.

Anyone reading this from Europe (where I think rear fog lights are required by law) please post fog lights switch logic and indicator lights as implemented in Europe. Thanks.

canzoomer

A few don't like me.

I strongly object to Mazda's treatment of the whole power and mileage issue.

I have been advocating to attempt to get enough of the RX-8 owners angry enough to tell their dealers and Mazda North America, in the hope that they could be prevented from doing this again, and to maybe fix the RX-8.

In the case of the 2001 Miata, Mazda learned they could lie about performance, and get away with it.
In the case of the RX-8 they are simply repeating this process.

Apparently to tell these people that their pride and joy has a flaw breaks their hearts..

Anyway, I am working on a project to manage the electronics in the ECU to over-ride the ignition and fuel controls, and as I believe we shall have this completed soon, I will either keep my 8, or buy another, depending on the timing of Mazda in contacting me back from my buy-back letter.
It already is apparent that the 247HP and about 10 to 15 more is easily achiveable, within the limits of emissions legality here in Canada and most of the USA.

As I have mentioned many times I love the car, waited a long time for it, and if the power and fuel problems can be solved, I will keep it.

In the meantime I am brining in parts, as i find the companies that normally specialise in this are ripping people off.

Selling the marker light assemblies for $70 or $80 US when they cost (retail) at a Japanese dealer only $38 is ludicrous.

For example JT was charging $80 at one point, and that did not include shipping from Japan.

I was able to bring in 10 sets by Fedex Air, and sell them for $50 US and still do better than break even.

It is pretyt well a straightforward deal:
If we pay more than $1,000 per invoice to the dealers, they will give us a 20% discount ( roughly, it varies by part a bit).
Freight cost depends on size and weight. If we can mail the goods it is quite inexpensive. Larger items like MazdaSpeed body parts need to come by sea, in containers, so take a bit more effort.

I am tacking on 10% above my cost. Anyody who is interested is invited to call or email me.
I simply am doing this to pay for the parts I want, and happen to be in a position to do it due to my contacts in Japan, and the fact that through my businessI have the freight, brokerage, and other services already in place.

I Hope this was helpful..

broose

Thanks Ringer. So the button on your dash does not illuminate when the rear fog light is on? Do you have the button that has both the fog light icon and the DSC on it or do you have a dedicated button with just the fog light icon on it (I understand that there are two different button designs - one for cars wih DSC and one for without)? Does the button light up with the rest of the instrumentation when your headlights are on (for finding the button at night)?

Yuhki

Maybe this is already settled....

F151 V7 255 - rear fog light set for a car with DSC
F152 V7 255 - rear fog light set for a car without DSC

These PNs include all you need. fog itself, switch, wires, maybe installation manual.

List price is 20,000 yen. 27,500 yen is including installation fee at dealership.

Ringer

Broose,

I thought I replied. In case it got lost I repost :

My RX8 Type S (250 PS) has standard DSC. My rear fog light switch is above the DSC cutoff switch - 2 square buttons sharing the rectangular space between instrument panel dimmer and headlight level adjuster, in the cluster above the coin tray. All these switches are illuminated (thankfully) when running lights are on.

My dissapointment is with the lack of an indicator light on the instrument panel to indicate rear fog light on (no front fog lights on indicator either). It's important to be reminded to turn them off when conditions do not require fog lights - don't want to irritate other road users.

broose

Thanks Ringer for the information.

Yuhki - the part numbers I have listed are actually just the part numbers for the dash switch buttons, not the whole kit. I've seen the instructions to install the rear fog light kit (written only in Japanese which doesn't do me any good) and I don't want to install it that way. I am trying to just get the fog light housing itself (part no. FE15 51 650A) and an appropriate switch for the dash. There are two types listed in the installation instructions. One is F151 V7 255 and the other is F152 V7 255. One is the split switch which shares the spot with the DSC as described in Ringer's posting. The other I believe just has a picutre of the fog light icon.

I want to install the light and wire it directly to the dash basically in one of the dummy (space) spots. That's why I'm trying to source the switch button for the dash so it looks more stock.

If you can read Japanese, please look at the attachment in my original post. The Japanese text should identify which switch is which (say that 5 times fast). If you could translate that for me and let me know I would greatly appreciate it.

Canzoomer - Any more word on finding a price for me on these parts?

canzoomer

OK, as far as the install instructions, my friend in Tokyo is game to translate. his Japanese and English are quite good.

He needs either a scan of the pages, or if someone wants to buy one, he can read before he sends it to me.

Cost for me for the kit is 20,000 Yen ( $242 Canadian)
For the switch assembly ( either) is 3,350 Yen ($41 Canadian)
Don't have a price yet on the lamp only, not in kit.
Part # F151 V7 650A
Was not on the system ( Mazda dealer parts system)
Still trying to get it. Dealer has faxes Mazda for more info.

Add 5% Japan sales tax
Add 10% for his troubles.
Add mail costs.

About $315 for the full kit and $62 for the switch by itself.
Lamp only price to come later..

ETA: 7 to 10 days after you confirm to me with $$

broose

Canzoomer - I've got a PDF file of the installation instructions for the rear fog light. I will send it to you so you can forward it to your friend for translation. It certainly would be interesting to have the full installation instructions in English.

canzoomer

Great!
maurice@harddata.com

Yuhki

OK.

I am Japanese.
To translate your bitmap file into Japanse accurately,

F151 V7 255 - (for a car with DSC)
F152 V7 255 - (for a car without DSC)

As you mentioned in this thread, I think the PN difference is due to the switch difference.

And the reason why I wrote the PNs are for a whole set is that Japanese RX-8 option lists has these PNs as a whole set.
But this option list is a little bit old (as of May), so there may be some possibilty of typo.

As canzoomer mentioned above, there seems no information on all optional parts in dealership parts system.

I will attached two schematics around steering wheel on the dealer parts system. Just for your info.

Yuhki

For price example,
66-4T0A is DSC switch. This price is 1,570yen
*)66-4T0A is NOT PN. called as "product code."

66-6R0A is "Unit, Register ", 5,630yen.
66-6F0 is "switch, level head lamp", 2,450yen.


Seems no rear fog switch lsited in this schematic.

canzoomer

I emailed a quick translation to Broose.
If anyone else needs it email me off list:
maurice@harddata.com