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Old 04-19-2010, 10:43 PM
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AZR - your build is very interesting and we want to see you do well . But when you can't get the whp you want ,have blown a few engines and destroyed a few turbos at least remember that we TRIED to help .
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If the plan is to do some serious drifitng, than the Turbo is a must. For ***** and giggles on the backroads, then sure maybe its not needed. I dont know anything about the kit, but, clearly if any of you who have commented have seen a drift comp, live or not, you know these guys are moving fast. Most of the professional comps have a first turn entry speed of near 100, and not much space to get there. Really the only non FI'd cars you see are V8's, and the very rare AE86, but even those tend to fall behind on tandem runs when they start in the chase position.

The wing makes sense, if you dont think it does, then go take a science class. Im sure none of those rally cars need big wings either, its just for show...
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Originally Posted by Kevin McMahon
If the plan is to do some serious drifitng, than the Turbo is a must. For ***** and giggles on the backroads, then sure maybe its not needed. I dont know anything about the kit, but, clearly if any of you who have commented have seen a drift comp, live or not, you know these guys are moving fast. Most of the professional comps have a first turn entry speed of near 100, and not much space to get there. Really the only non FI'd cars you see are V8's, and the very rare AE86, but even those tend to fall behind on tandem runs when they start in the chase position.

The wing makes sense, if you dont think it does, then go take a science class. Im sure none of those rally cars need big wings either, its just for show...

aren't the ae86's turbo???
Old 04-22-2010, 11:45 AM
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god bunch o0f stupid dicks with retarded comments car looks sick, different strokes for different folks,

should be sick
Old 04-22-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8inthe540
aren't the ae86's turbo???
Some yes, but not all. You know the non turbo ones when they come along as they are extremely loud. So yes i probably should have specified more, but really there arent any NA professional drift cars, and the ones that are, tend to have 8 cylinders.
Old 04-22-2010, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin McMahon
If the plan is to do some serious drifitng, than the Turbo is a must. For ***** and giggles on the backroads, then sure maybe its not needed. I dont know anything about the kit, but, clearly if any of you who have commented have seen a drift comp, live or not, you know these guys are moving fast. Most of the professional comps have a first turn entry speed of near 100, and not much space to get there. Really the only non FI'd cars you see are V8's, and the very rare AE86, but even those tend to fall behind on tandem runs when they start in the chase position.

The wing makes sense, if you dont think it does, then go take a science class. Im sure none of those rally cars need big wings either, its just for show...

Dude you can drift anything.....

You guys are thinking about this turbo thing too much. The power setup for a drift car can vary like crazy! Yet still the drivers can compete on the same level. There are unbelievable drivers in <200hp ae86's that tear it up! While drifting right along side *** clown rhys millen in his 500+hp genesis. Sure it makes it easier to sustain long drifts with more power, and that is the reason for me getting the turbo. But, not because the NA rx8 cant do it. I was fortunate enough to have some extra cash to get some power while building this thing. I was more than willing to build this thing with just exhaust and intake for the first season and try it out.


Thanks for everybody's comments though. Aero should be back tomorrow and on the car tomorrow or saturday. Then were putting in the diff on saturday. My brother just finished his MKIII supra (w/ a 1JZ), so I'll probably post some pics of both of our cars.
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Originally Posted by AZR
Dude you can drift anything.....

You guys are thinking about this turbo thing too much. The power setup for a drift car can vary like crazy! Yet still the drivers can compete on the same level. There are unbelievable drivers in <200hp ae86's that tear it up! While drifting right along side *** clown rhys millen in his 500+hp genesis. Sure it makes it easier to sustain long drifts with more power, and that is the reason for me getting the turbo. But, not because the NA rx8 cant do it. I was fortunate enough to have some extra cash to get some power while building this thing. I was more than willing to build this thing with just exhaust and intake for the first season and try it out.


Thanks for everybody's comments though. Aero should be back tomorrow and on the car tomorrow or saturday. Then were putting in the diff on saturday. My brother just finished his MKIII supra (w/ a 1JZ), so I'll probably post some pics of both of our cars.
Never did i say impossible without a turbo. I actually did agree in my first post that the car has plenty of power to start off with to drift. My point was to try and compete with nationally competitive cars, it is very very rare to see any car be able to do that na anymore, unless its a V8. It can be done, but you rarely, if ever see a NA car in national circuits, and the ones that are, are still tuned to a very high degree, which isnt a reality with the 8's.

Edit: Case in point, there is one, only one car under the listed professional drifters on the Formula Drift circuit that uses a NA car with less than eight cylinders, and it does happen to be an AE86. To think that it is stock, would just be stupid.

Could you have fun drifting in any rear wheel drive car, regardless of powertrain? Absolutely. Can you compete with some of the top drifters/cars without some kind of power adder on a smaller motor? Highly, highly unlikely, thus why most people dont even bother.

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alright i dont want to start a big argument. But go ahead and search the legitamit professional drift circuit...D1 Grand Prix.

I understand what ur saying, but understand that my underlying point is that you can drift any level of power car (within reason), and dependent upon the driver can compete with the best of them.

Aero should be put on tomorrow, as well as the diff. I'll take some good quality pictures and post em up
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GL to the OP w/the turbo build.
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dropped it off today to get the cage done. They are also making me exhaust at the same shop, i just got a muffler to make it not exactly straight pipes (might be a bit too loud).

I'm getting it back from all that next friday, and then she is going straight to get tuned (cause mazdamaniac doesn't update **** for people's tune.) at a guy a few of my buddies have used for their rotary's. I got the aero back from getting painted, and the paint really didn't match, so I'm getting it re-sprayed. There really won't be any updates or pictures for like the next 3 weeks, as its going to getting this **** done and out of my hands.
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i can already see this thread becoming more fun to read...

btw, what garage is doing the tuning? jw
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I'm curious as to who is doing the cage up in Chicago?
Old 05-01-2010, 12:49 PM
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Car is at Broke Dick Racing for the cage and exhaust. They don't typically do exhaust setups there, but they can make it work. He will have the car back to me this friday. So excited!!

Right after I get it back I'm gunna drive out to rockford to get it tuned by this guy Ryan Shook. He's tuned 2 of my buddies FC's (one turbo, one NA) and they have had awesome results. I know a few other people that have really liked his turnout. He'll have it until the following friday (1 week) and then we literally drive up to Wisconsin for the first drift event!! Either way I don't have to ****** deal with Jeff (Mazda Maniac) anymore. He's a real *****

The aero unfortunately came back with the wrong shade of black!! ****** terrible, but whatever, they are respraying it for free. And I got time, as the car is going to be somewhere other than my house for the next 2 weeks.
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Glad to see someone building a drift setup 8.
But everyone needs to stop saying the wing is needed, Its a drift car its there for looks not functionality. Theres a reason why nascars run 200+ mph in races without an ungoldy 50 foot wing. I think its ugly but yet a drift car isn't a drift car without one..
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Originally Posted by rotoryfan1991
Glad to see someone building a drift setup 8.
But everyone needs to stop saying the wing is needed, Its a drift car its there for looks not functionality. Theres a reason why nascars run 200+ mph in races without an ungoldy 50 foot wing. I think its ugly but yet a drift car isn't a drift car without one..

hahahaha bingo! finally someone chimes in. Strictly a "style" mod.

But i have to agree with ur last sentence....there are plenty of sick as drift cars with no wing. I chose chose to go that route.
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What are you doing to the turbo to make it last? Cooling mods?
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NASCAR and formula 1 have made both made modifactions to there cars....
Not saying it's big but to make only 1 turn there spoiler ain't small
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Looking forward to updates.
Can I haz drifting lessons?
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Originally Posted by rotoryfan1991
But everyone needs to stop saying the wing is needed, Its a drift car its there for looks not functionality. Theres a reason why nascars run 200+ mph in races without an ungoldy 50 foot wing. I think its ugly but yet a drift car isn't a drift car without one..
First off, no one said the wing was "needed". I, explained how the wing worked in the handling perspective to those, or rather, particularly one person earlier in the thread who asked about their effect. Some mocked my post when they have jack **** for experience tuning the handling of a car with a wing when going sideways. I'm done trying to teach the inexperienced arrogant young those simple facts.

Secondly, 50ft wing? Exaggerate much? NASCAR wings are small, especially compared to some of them used on those in road courses, Indy/F1 and Sprint Cars.

To the OP, good luck with whatever.
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hahahahahahahaha so many hilarious comments!!!!!
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do people really think drifting a N/A rx8 is that hard? 190whp stock compared to a s13 with what 90whp stock? lol.
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well the cage is in.....
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I really like it. They did such a nice job cutting perfectly through the carpet and everything.

The exhaust was finally made and is on. It is getting a tune right now and should be completely done tomorrow. I cant wait to get it back.

There is a drift event this weekend and I am going to take some really good shots while up there, so I'll post some **** when i get back.
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Cage turned out well.

looking forward to your pics of the event
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