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HELAS 12-12-2005 10:32 AM

New Starter?
 
Has any one had to have a new starter and battery put in their '8 dure to REALLY slow start or no start? I think Im going to have to put one in tomorrow. this morning it is -15 out and it took me a good 10 min. to get me '8 to start. It sounded like there was not enough juice to turn the rotors over. What do ya think? Thanks

TLovr 12-12-2005 11:38 AM

sup Alex ya the new starter is alot better, i have it in mine. starts up alot easier. the installed it after the car flooed once on me. To change the subject, i was drivin the 8 pritty hard on sat night and was goin around a turn side ways and the rpm's where high, vry high after i straightened out the car the check engine light came on and was like sona ma bitch, not that it stayed in it was flashing on, off,on,off for like 30-45 sec and then never saw it again i got a little worried, just woundering if this ever happened to you since your a sprited drive also man.

tlov out

The Chad 12-12-2005 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by TLovr
To change the subject, i was drivin the 8 pritty hard on sat night and was goin around a turn side ways and the rpm's where high, vry high after i straightened out the car the check engine light came on and was like sona ma bitch, not that it stayed in it was flashing on, off,on,off for like 30-45 sec and then never saw it again i got a little worried, just woundering if this ever happened to you since your a sprited drive also man.

tlov out

It was most likely a misfire. I get them every now and then when I'm having some fun on the highway :evil_laug

As long as the engine light stops blinking you should be OK.

Gord96BRG 12-12-2005 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by TLovr
sup Alex ya the new starter is alot better, i have it in mine. starts up alot easier. the installed it after the car flooed once on me.

Tlovr, interesting! I just had a 'spirited' conversation with my local Mazda dealer on Friday; I complained about hard starting when cold and asked about the new starter, they claimed to know nothing about a different starter available for the early RX-8s, said Mazda Canada had no information or replacement part available!!! :cussing:

Is there any chance you might have the invoice available from that service that has the part number for the starter they installed? I would dearly love to be able to say "Here's the part number for the improved starter as installed by an Ontario Mazda dealer!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Thanks in advance if you've got it!
Gordon

HELAS 12-12-2005 03:33 PM

TLovr, what dealership do you take your car to and who did you talk to? On the phone thismorning they played stupid (as per usuall) this way tomorrow if they tell me that i am crazy I can tell them to call the dealership that did yours and talk to the person who you delt with. I know you are not the only one who has had it installed. Danieleson had it put it aswell and is VERY happy. That is what sucks about this forum..... WE ALL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE FREAKIN DEALERSHIPS!!!

alcimedes 12-12-2005 03:48 PM

Yeah, here in MN my car is having a hell of a time starting once the temp. drops below 20 degrees F or so.

Have to get a new starter in soon. *sigh*

Gord96BRG 12-12-2005 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by HELAS
WE ALL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE FREAKIN DEALERSHIPS!!!

You're tellnig me! Another issue I had is that my temperature control dial is broken, it'll turn past full hot and the dial slips on the shaft. So the dealer tells me they ordered the ONE dial, and I tell them about the TWO TSBs from Mazda USA saying that the climate control dials have been redesigned, and instructing dealers to replace BOTH the temp dial and the fan speed dial on early RX-8s even if only one of them is broken. My dealer tells me that Mazda Canada doesn't have that TSB so it doesn't apply and they can only replace the broken dial, even though the other one is also a known weak problem on the early RX-8s.

What a bunch of morons... :mad:

TLovr 12-12-2005 05:10 PM

hey guys I got the work order for when i got the starter replace, (spins alot faster)

this is how is reads on the work order

CAUSE: NO START

XX610XR2 RX-8 NO START/BULL 01-04-12

1 N3Y3-18-S30-CA SET PLUGS


G0401XRX RE AND RE STARTER. MODIFIED.

1 N3H1-18-400A STARTER RX <-----------"I assume this is the starter part #"

hope this helps you guys.

tlov out :)

TLovr 12-12-2005 05:13 PM

the dealer i delt with is Ajax Mazda 905 428 0088, ask for Sam " grl service advisor" she was a tech and installed the starter and now is advisor.

tlovr out

HELAS 12-12-2005 07:24 PM

great job kid! You have now givin me the amo in case my Idiot home dealership tries to give me the run-around tomorrow. thanks alot

samyv2 12-12-2005 08:44 PM

I also got a new starter about a month ago. I got it from Avante Mazda in Richmond hill. The car starts very easily now--no issues. Avante has a great service department.

MrJynx 12-13-2005 01:31 PM

which dealership you going to helas? Brampton Mazda? if so, they're all idiots.. The guy who actually works on our 8's is pretty good.. but the front line ppl know nothing and always act like idiots when you ask them specifics about your car..


MrJynx

HELAS 12-13-2005 01:49 PM

MrJynx, How did you guess? I only take it there out of sheer convience. it is still there and they have changed the spark plugs and said that that was the problem. If i get brave i will take it to 401 dixid who have always been great to me or even Avanti. We'll see.

hobbes 12-13-2005 05:37 PM

Avante are good people. Anthony who's one of the serivce guys drives an 8.
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Easy Vape

MrJynx 12-13-2005 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by HELAS
MrJynx, How did you guess? I only take it there out of sheer convience. it is still there and they have changed the spark plugs and said that that was the problem. If i get brave i will take it to 401 dixid who have always been great to me or even Avanti. We'll see.

lol.. yea.. they are totally clueless there.. For the longest time they had 5w30 on their invoices till i got pissed at them and said change it.. after that day it shows up 5w20 :) sounds trivial, but i don't want the next person that purchases my car to think i didn't follow the manual's recommendations..

I only bring my car there because i'm lazy to :)


MrJynx

DARKMAZ8 12-13-2005 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by HELAS
Has any one had to have a new starter and battery put in their '8 dure to REALLY slow start or no start? I think Im going to have to put one in tomorrow. this morning it is -15 out and it took me a good 10 min. to get me '8 to start. It sounded like there was not enough juice to turn the rotors over. What do ya think? Thanks

Didn't all 05's come with the new starter?

Mine did and it starts everytime no b/s

Smoker 12-13-2005 08:40 PM

So what do you guys think about the Mazda at 401 and Dixie in terms of Service ?

HELAS 12-14-2005 08:39 AM

they are great! I only deal with Tom Sabanis. he is an awsome service rep and is very professional and gives it to you stright up... no BS

SaugaBoy 12-14-2005 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by HELAS
they are great! I only deal with Tom Sabanis. he is an awsome service rep and is very professional and gives it to you stright up... no BS

I second that about Tom, straight up. Others didn't like too much.

Smoker 12-15-2005 11:13 AM

HELAS, SaugaBoy, Thanks a lot for your input.


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