Axialflow Engineering Short Shifter-GTA
 

Has Anyone in the GTA install a Axialflow Shifter, just trying to get a feel before I order.
Looks like a great product/my first mod. Would like to see one in action. Hear there a noise issue? Also looking at the Mazdaspeed CAI.

Ask Thumper, he's the expert on these things!

^ Many of us in the GTA have it. Come out the meet today and try it. If you're interested, let me know and I will PM you my address...

Come out to the meet and see/learn for yourself. IMO NO to MS CAI as well. I will show you a better one ;)

^ Agreed, say NO to MS CAI!

So, I'll try to make it the meet,when is the next one, I,m waiting to hear back from Richard @ Axialflow on the the cost to canada. But I'll probably just order it. Why NO to MS CAI?

Why no to MS CAI?? hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaa :lol:

:fruit:

Yes! Get the AFSS We'll help with the install.

MS CAI should be fine if you store your car in the winter...

Agreed, and it's perfectly fine provided that you do not drive in freezing rain or wet snow conditions.

Ok, so what a better COLD AIR INTAKE not a RAM AIR. Why cold air, physics, cold air is more dense. I believe most ram air units are taking most of their air from the engine compartment? PS PM for the next meet date.

Get this back on track. This thread is about the AFSS. If you wish to discuss intakes. Either start a new thread or continue the discussion in one of the hundreds of existing threads.

Sorry I wander sometimes, It's OLD AGE, see my avatar

AFAIK the only true CAI are the MS/AEM CAI and the stock intake. The rest are SRI. Unless There are some that I haven't seen...

Sent Payment Today for AFE Shifter!
Will keep you's posted on arrival & Install
Thanks Richard looks like a grat product! Keep them coming.

Off Subject again! It's OLD AGE!
P.S. What about the RB Revi Intake & Duct, PRM, these are CAI's also

^ RB Revi and dict are great, I have them

i love my short shifter. it's not loud. it gives you some feedback. i really don't know what people are talking about when they say these products are too loud. even the cai isn't loud except under wot.

maybe the first few short shifters didn't have a sound dampener half way up? i dunno.

the ms/aem cai is nice. the revi costs too much. i'm not sure about pwr. people rave about them, but i think they look funny. never heard one in person.

revi + duct is a true CAI.
I wouldn't consider the PRM a true CAI. It's more of a SRI.

To bad you couldn't make it out, could have told you many stories as to why no to MS CAI and you could have seen Thunders RB or mine PRM etc. Do some searching even on this part of the forum you will see my problems/footmans etc with it.

From when I ordered the AFE I was told it is an extra $20us to ship to canada (in case you don't know by now).

HAHAHAHA FAIL!! It is NOT perfectly fine!

If a TRUE CAI has to stick outside the engine bay then yes...but if a TRUE CAI is considered sucking in ambient air and the MAF is reading that ambient air, then PRM is a true CAI, and that is the only part that matters. What temperature air is being sucked into the engine.


RXeckless - on a side note, I was offered to trade my used PRM intake for a brand new MS CAI and no way in HELL would I ever do it!! Live and learn!! But if you want it go for it!!

well.. techincally any SRI that is positioned close to the air inlet and is covered (K&N / PRM) can be converted into a CAI with the application of the RB duct and some tape ;)

:) Win Rev lol. But what is the definition of CAI?? An intake taking cold air/ambient air into the engine right?? PRM does it but I have heard/read K&N does not.

i think the only reason to go pwr style over AEM style would be if you live in a very cold climate. i could see the aem filter maybe getting coated with ice and causing some trouble.

people who bash the ms/aem should explain why. damn canadians.

A CAI is cold-air, implying that the air is outside the engine bay. Technically if the ambient air is at the same temperature as the engine bay, then it would be a moot point. But that is an impossible scenario unless you're driving in Hell :lol:.

Therefore, a COLD-AIR-INTAKE must be one that draws air from outside the engine bay. That is exactly what the MS CAI and the Revi + duct does.

The PRM's entrance point is still located inside the engine bay, thus it can't be called a CAI.

I think the stock-intake actually qualifies to be a HALF cold-air intake, because the air entry points are in the front bumper piece. The difference is that whereas the MS CAI's entry point is completely exposed, the stock-intake is not.

I love the MS CAI, and I think it's a great product. Objectively speaking, I would not recommend it if the car is to be winter driven in climates where freezing rain/wet snow is likely to occur. In all other cases, it is excellent.

My proof is first hand experience in running two Canadian Winters.

LOL...there are a few threads/posts on as to why we have had problems up here and one I had was on a nice fall day after a car wash. Just isn't worth the worry to me IMO. Remember this is IMO and the experience I have had along with some other, i.e. footman.

Case in point...PRM did testing and proved that is sucks ambient air, it is located right in front of the intake air outlet (whatever that hole is called) and having air forced into its filter. Therefore little to NO engine warmer air is being drawn into the intake. So with your explanation about CAIs this should be considered a COLD-AIR-INTAKE right?!?!? It READS outside air temp at the MAF which = CAI by your description above. IF the temp readings are above ambient air then YES it would NOT be a cold air because it is sucking in engine bay air.