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SymSym 01-18-2007 04:57 PM

Tires Tires Tires
 
The time has come to replace my tyres. Have been doing research and was keen to get Goodyear Gs D3. Have been to tyre places for prices and have received conflicting advice. Have had recommendations from them for Falkens, Firestone Wide Oval, BF Goodrich GForce Sport and Kumho ECSTA SPT. MOst felt the Goodyears were overpriced. Does anyone run any of the above tires and if so give me some feedback on them. I don't want to lose the brilliant feel at turn in with my car, and I want a tyre that grips well in the wet(even though there has been bugger all rain in Sydney) . How are your Goodyears going Kall? I know there have been threads on this but none have talked about the above tyres. Does anyone have any feedback?

EZZY 01-18-2007 05:11 PM

omg.... wtf?!!?

who are you? where are you from?

SymSym 01-18-2007 05:50 PM

I'm from Sydney and have been on both oz and usa forums but under different login names. Very nice photo of you in your avatar Ezzy. More to the point though, what tyres are you running and how do they compare to the Potenzas for road use, not track use.

takahashi 01-18-2007 06:47 PM

Welcome Sym

Do your own research, you can take tyre salesmen word but they are extremely bias.

I use Michelin PS2... extremely expensive :hahano:

Revolver 01-18-2007 08:50 PM

Welcome Sym.

(I think I know why Eric was a little startled. :cwm27: )

I'm also a Michelin PS2 convert. Not cheap but worth every penny IMHO. They wear much better than the OEM rubber, so arguably the cost evens out over time. Grip in all conditions is excellent and they're quieter too.

takahashi 01-18-2007 09:52 PM

I just got the front exchanged.

I compare with the rear. After 20000km I still have 60% left! That is all rear wheel and 2 drift days! It will last forever in normal driving.

Revolver 01-18-2007 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by takahashi
I just got the front exchanged.

I compare with the rear. After 20000km I still have 60% left! That is all rear wheel and 2 drift days! It will last forever in normal driving.

Agreed.

I failed to take note of the kms when I got mine but it must be at least 15K now and they hardly look worn at all.

Domza 01-18-2007 10:47 PM

I have Pirelli P-Zero Rosso's on my 8, and they are magnificent. Extraordinary grip during cornering. Great tyre, but will set you back alot.

MissyK 01-18-2007 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by EZZY
omg.... wtf?!!?

who are you? where are you from?


did u think your girlfriend "sym" finally registered on here to give u shit?? hahahahhahahaha

EZZY 01-18-2007 11:21 PM

Michelin are good & expensive tyres. have had them (earlier models) for 2 of my previous cars. now i have falken st115 on the 8.


Originally Posted by Revolver
(I think I know why Eric was a little startled. :cwm27: )

:evil_laug

SymSym 01-19-2007 12:18 AM

Kall, I am not his girlfriend , unless he likes going out with good looking men! I thought you were his girlfriend.
Back onto the subject, MIchelin to expensive for me to buy. How are your Goodyears holding up Kall?

MissyK 01-19-2007 12:29 AM

I have no complaints about them, they are definately not track tyres though. I went on a track day and yes they were grippy as hell and great but they wore a fair bit after 1 day. Softer compound blah blah but not made for track. No complaints about them in general driving..... having come across any concerns.

I read that youve been to tyre places and got conflicting reviews. Well same happened to me! 1 tyre shop says yes 1 tyre shop says no. and the tyre that 1 tyre shop says no about the other 1 says yes.

At the end of the day your lookin at a budget thats about $250-350 per tyre (really depends where you go!) So you really cant expect a tyre thats 350$ to be same as a michilan which can range up2 $700.

Most people tend to be torn between good yrs and the toyos. I think them two are the most competitive.

yellowrx8inoz has the kumho tyres, so maybe pm him or he'll check this thread. ezzy has the falkens, and i think timbo used to have the yokohomas on his rx8.

EZZY 01-19-2007 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by MissyK
did u think your girlfriend "sym" finally registered on here to give u shit?? hahahahhahahaha

dont really care to be honest.


Originally Posted by SymSym
Kall, I am not his girlfriend ,

thank god for that


Originally Posted by SymSym
unless he likes going out with good looking men!

dont believe what yor mum tells you.


Originally Posted by SymSym
I thought you were his girlfriend.

i have a greek woman already.


Originally Posted by SymSym
Back onto the subject, MIchelin to expensive for me to buy. How are your Goodyears holding up Kall?

i think goodyears is a good all round tyres for most conditions. it handles well in both wet and dry conditions.
it pasy to shop around for the best price. dont forget to ask for the price for fitting ;)

rotalution 01-20-2007 12:12 PM

OEM tyres r pretty good ?
 
well I dont know if is the aftermarket suspension or I am a noob.. tonight i was pushing hard with my friend in a double hairpin U turn.. its also off camber for the last turn to exit..... and this was under moderate rain condition.. and the OEM tyres.. actually provide very good grip.. we r talking about high gear two flooring out in the rain here... eastern freeway .. it just refuse to let go... if i was in the market for tyre.. i would like to try RE01R or AD07

takahashi 01-20-2007 05:34 PM

The prob is RE01-R is not being supplied here and not gone through the Australian standard. If you put them on then you are risking the insurance company not liking it.

AD07 on the other hand is on the standard Mitsu Ralli art Colt. So I guess they are hard to argue that. Not sure you can get it in our sizes though here.

Revolver 01-20-2007 05:47 PM

Actually, aside from increased noise as they wear, I think the OEM tyre is pretty good. Some back to back track testing with other rubber by some experienced drivers has demonstrated that its grip level is high comparatively speaking and allows quick lap times. Shame it's so expensive.

RXP33D 01-20-2007 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by takahashi
I just got the front exchanged.

I compare with the rear. After 20000km I still have 60% left! That is all rear wheel and 2 drift days! It will last forever in normal driving.

I think taka makes a good point.

So 50 000km's taka says is doable for street use. My GSD3 pulls 30 000km before shot dead. It seems fairly feasible to pay the extra $ for the extra grip.

What are your experiences/estimate revolver? 50K is doable on your tyres with the odd spirited drive?

Revolver 01-20-2007 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by RXP33D
What are your experiences/estimate revolver? 50K is doable on your tyres with the odd spirited drive?

I reckon that's possible but it's early days for me, so I doubt I could call it.

That said, I've got bugger all wear after 15K plus, which includes two track days and plenty of "spirited" driving. I never do burnouts or stuff like that.

Wear aside though, I think the PS2's are worth the entry fee for their performance, quietness and ride.

You get what you pay for, like anything else. Do I think they could be cheaper? Sure, but so could a Porsche, and I'll buy one of them when I can afford it too.

Cromax 01-21-2007 01:32 AM

Ok ... I have to say this: the first set of RE040s that came with the car were absolut scheiße! However, the replacement set of RE040's are very good value for money!

Looking at my tyre wear on my new set of RE040's ... I did the first rotation at 20000kms and was told I'd probably get another 40000km out of them easily. I think the rears were at about 70% and the fronts were at about 90% still. Talking to the guy at Bridgestone, he said they'll retail for about $380 a tyre now ...

... not sure whether that was a retail quote, repeat customer quote or whether it was a deal because of an affiliation with work though. I reckon $380 a tyre is good value for these ... especially considering I was only paying $80 less for 16" tyres with comparable grip.

I really like the new tyres, they grip really well and don't fade out when driving up around yarraglen-kinglake-healesville area (OT: I'm really pissed off with the new speed limits) ... my only complaint about them is the amount of dust they put out. Every time I go up there (once or twice a month), I end up with tyre dust stains down the sides of the car ... and it gets really bad behind the driving wheels. However, they're a vast improvement over the ones that came fitted to the car so I'm happy.

MissyK 01-21-2007 01:42 AM


Originally Posted by Cromax
Ok ... I have to say this: the first set of RE040s that came with the car were absolut scheiße! However, the replacement set of RE040's are very good value for money!


u replaced with same tyres?

Cromax 01-21-2007 01:48 AM

Well yes and no ... Yes I have RE040's on my car ... and No I didn't put them on. Remember a while ago I had a problem with the rear suspension in my car?

timbo 01-21-2007 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by rotalution
well I dont know if is the aftermarket suspension or I am a noob.. tonight i was pushing hard with my friend in a double hairpin U turn.. its also off camber for the last turn to exit..... and this was under moderate rain condition.. and the OEM tyres.. actually provide very good grip.. we r talking about high gear two flooring out in the rain here... eastern freeway .. it just refuse to let go... if i was in the market for tyre.. i would like to try RE01R or AD07

Nothing wrong with the OEMs and if you replace them, get 235s-- they're considerably cheaper. The 040s have a good compound and stiff sidewalls, both of which promote grip (dry & wet), and the good turn-in you get with the OEMs. On the downside, they are hard/harsh, and noisy...and expensive if you stay at 225s :(

aa@uow 01-21-2007 07:35 AM

if you want something grippy and not so expensive.. the Hankook R-S2 could be an option for you..

SymSym 01-21-2007 05:15 PM

Thanks for all the advice . My car is a road car only. NO track work. I really need to have confidence i nthe wet with it, and have it be as quiet as an 8 can be, but I still want to be able to push at times in the dry. I'll be getting the Goodyears and will give you feedback in a month or two.

Cromax 01-21-2007 07:25 PM

Good luck with it mate! I wouldn't recommend Goodyear though ... in fact it'd be a brand I would recommend you not buying unless you're getting them for half as much as anything else!


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