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takahashi 09-29-2007 03:01 AM

Autoexe Adjustable Endlink
 
I have installed those endlink from Autoexe, they can be adjusted from 90mm to 104mm (104 is the stock height).

It is to level out the stabilizer bar when you have lowered your car. Explain with simple graphics below.

1. Normal height 2.When lowered 3.What does the shorter endlink do to a lowered car
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/ad...mse7605zu2.jpg http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/ad...mse7605zu3.jpg http://www.autoexe.co.jp/products/ad...mse7605zu4.jpg

As you can see the forces going through the stabilizer bar (when the car is lowered) is not as effective as they are level out. I have noticed the car sway when I have adjusted the coilover lower and lower, so to get the right set up. After corner balancing, I really need this link to gain more from the stabilizer bar. The good thing about its adjustability is that I can measure and adjust so the bolt on the endlink are not in an angle anymore. Hopefully I have set the head in the middle so that the stabilizer bars will work at its best.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...h_f32a70fd.jpg http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...h_cc9a7f09.jpg http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...h_284debbf.jpg

I have barely notice any difference just driving on the road, and it probably shows only when I drive harder.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...k/284debbf.jpg

Revolver 09-30-2007 01:59 AM

Thanks for the info Taka.

mx99 09-30-2007 07:00 PM

https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/...V/DSC00594.jpg

brand new in box of sale... interested? pm me :lol2:

Thx taka :)

Black-8 10-01-2007 04:18 AM

So can I say that this end link will only benefits those with lowered cars? So if your car is not lowered, you won't feel any improvements?

takahashi 10-01-2007 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Black-8 (Post 2078325)
So can I say that this end link will only benefits those with lowered cars? So if your car is not lowered, you won't feel any improvements?

Spot on. It is the fact that lowering the car makes the endlink not as suitable as before.

Revolver 10-01-2007 04:36 PM

Taka, do you know if MazdaSpeed sells a similar part for use with the MS springs and shocks? I don't remember seeing one anywhere...

mikeyr 10-01-2007 05:54 PM

Whiteline do as well, have just ordered some to try and fix my rattle!

takahashi 10-01-2007 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Revolver (Post 2079123)
Taka, do you know if MazdaSpeed sells a similar part for use with the MS springs and shocks? I don't remember seeing one anywhere...

No they don't but these can be used for MazdaSpeed spring. If I remember correctly you drop 20mm in the front for MS springs, from the table provided with these links. You can adjust it to 92mm and you will be right.

Revolver 10-02-2007 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by mikeyr (Post 2079297)
Whiteline do as well, have just ordered some to try and fix my rattle!

Hey, I thought we were group buy buddies?? :confused:

The rotors I can overlook but cheating on me with your own little endlinks! For shame...:nono:

;)

Revolver 10-02-2007 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by takahashi (Post 2079385)
No they don't but these can be used for MazdaSpeed spring. If I remember correctly you drop 20mm in the front for MS springs, from the table provided with these links. You can adjust it to 92mm and you will be right.

Thanks Taka. I'll look into getting a set.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but it is just rears, correct?

DrewMan 10-02-2007 08:13 AM

I had the Agency Power Endlinks put in when I had my Cusco Swaybars put in!


Very tight (and bumpy!)

Notice anything different Taka?

takahashi 10-02-2007 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Revolver (Post 2079975)
Thanks Taka. I'll look into getting a set.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but it is just rears, correct?

They are only for the fronts.

Originally Posted by Drewman
Notice anything different Taka?

Tell you Sat.

Revolver 10-02-2007 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by takahashi (Post 2080137)
They are only for the fronts.

Oh....my bad. Thanks

DrewMan 10-03-2007 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by takahashi (Post 2080137)
They are only for the fronts.


Tell you Sat.


hahah cant wait!

fd3s777 03-20-2008 11:06 AM

Awsome stuff. Guys we got our stuff from Autoexe's factory direct. Our is even better than Autoexe. Our center tube link is made of #6 Aluminum. Our kit also includes the rear. Pics!
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1129/img4502vm2.jpg

Revolver 03-20-2008 04:23 PM

I ended up gettting Whiteline end links front and rear. Not quite as sexy looking as the Autoexe numbers above but do the job...

takahashi 03-20-2008 05:04 PM

Hi to New York.

What are the ones in the bottom 2 ...? Please explain...

The head is totally from autoexe and they are well manufactured product.

fd3s777 03-20-2008 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by takahashi (Post 2360085)
Hi to New York.

What are the ones in the bottom 2 ...? Please explain...

The head is totally from autoexe and they are well manufactured product.

Thanks. Yep, these came out of same factory as Autoexe's supplier. The bottom 2 are for the rear stabilizer end links. We sale them as a package. But if you just need the rears I can get them to you too.

matt13b 03-22-2008 01:32 AM

Do you think these will improve the handling of my car if the suspension is only lowered by about 2cms?

takahashi 03-22-2008 04:51 AM

It will increase the efficiency of your stabilizers... whether you can feel it I :dunno:

Revolver 03-22-2008 06:40 PM

I'm also of the view that having everything 'straight' down there is less likely to lead to component fatigue in the long term and thus help stave of the inevitable rattles, etc as suspension ages.

kiet1 03-22-2008 11:07 PM

i have them on my car.
bought them just before the end of last year.
helps get a more balaced corner weight.

auzoom 03-23-2008 04:48 AM

sheesh kiet! a voice from the dead!!!

matt13b 03-23-2008 04:55 AM

Do you have theses endlinks andrew? I just know that we both have same shocks and I think similar ride height..

auzoom 03-23-2008 05:04 AM

No mate. I have been meaning to for a while but between the turbo being fitted and work I havent gotten around to it.

I am trying to find the evo-r links on their website but between my optus cable being slower than dial up and their website design I cant seem to find any details.

Cheers

Andrew

kinchu007 03-25-2008 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by takahashi (Post 2360085)
Hi to New York.

What are the ones in the bottom 2 ...? Please explain...

The head is totally from autoexe and they are well manufactured product.



Originally Posted by fd3s777 (Post 2360443)
Thanks. Yep, these came out of same factory as Autoexe's supplier. The bottom 2 are for the rear stabilizer end links. We sale them as a package. But if you just need the rears I can get them to you too.


I'm about to pull the trigger on these, but I still don't understand the bottom two in the pic?? I don't think you explained why they are shaped that way. It doesn't look anything like stock. Please explain.

TeamRX8 03-25-2008 09:03 PM

the rear links are too short to have an adjustable center tube like the front link. Instead the threaded stud endlink that screws into the adjustable center tube as shown in the upper links in the picture screw directly into the endlink body shown in the lower pic. You'll have to unbolt one end from the bar or suspension in order to make the rear adjustment.

However, my STU car was seriously cornerweighted etc. and we never found the need for adjustable endlinks. With both endlink ends loosened there was always enough hole slop between the two end mounts to install and tighten the endlinks in an unloaded position following the coilover cornerweight procedure. With a three endlink hole adjustable front bar we would install them initially in the centerhole and found that they'd transfer to the other holes without loading as well. The only issue may be if you want to use different adjustment holes on one bar end rather than the other. This is especially true with most rear adjustable bars. So it mostly boils down to your intended need/use.

fd3s777 03-26-2008 01:08 PM

Thanks. You'll see autoexe come out with exact rear link we have. We got it from the factory before they do. Hehee...

luv4eternity 03-29-2008 08:44 AM

I have a question .... I just lowered my car and my back&front wheels start to go sideways ... My friend ask me to get a camber kit .... Is the endlink what he's talking about ???

fd3s777 03-29-2008 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by luv4eternity (Post 2375957)
I have a question .... I just lowered my car and my back&front wheels start to go sideways ... My friend ask me to get a camber kit .... Is the endlink what he's talking about ???

Nope.

takahashi 03-29-2008 04:58 PM

Nope but you can adjust the camber to series negative degree that you don't really need a camber kit.

luv4eternity 03-30-2008 01:43 AM

ooh ...then what is the endlink for ??

takahashi 03-30-2008 01:58 AM

It links..... (be serious Taka) the suspension to the anti roll bars.

Revolver 03-30-2008 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by luv4eternity (Post 2377141)
ooh ...then what is the endlink for ??

Oh FFS, just look at the first post in this thread. It's got pictures and everything! :icon_no2:

:banghead: :banghead:

fd3s777 03-31-2008 11:08 AM

Just want to show the difference between stock endlink and (AUTOEXE EVO-R) Endlink. Both autoexe and EVO-R ball join are polished. Where stock one is not. This gives you a faster responds in coners. Also on the plastic join clip on stock is easy to get loose. Which once car gets losts tension it will be come loose and make noise. One the other hand ours holds stronger.
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9464/img4579gn5.jpg

kinchu007 04-03-2008 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 2369288)
the rear links are too short to have an adjustable center tube like the front link. Instead the threaded stud endlink that screws into the adjustable center tube as shown in the upper links in the picture screw directly into the endlink body shown in the lower pic. You'll have to unbolt one end from the bar or suspension in order to make the rear adjustment.

Team, I must admit that I still can't figure out how to install the rears...the geometry just doesn't make sense...are you saying I need to take apart the stock rear endlinks and retrofit???

kinchu007 04-03-2008 01:20 PM

Can you superimpose the rear endlink onto this image so I can make sense of it?

http://www.gerhardstein.net/rx8/susp...arbarincar.jpg

kinchu007 04-03-2008 01:30 PM

1 Attachment(s)
The only logical conclusion that I can arrive at is that I was sent an incomplete set...I'm missing two threaded stud endlinks.

Jay, can you confirm that I should have gotten two extra pieces in addition to the pieces in the original pic on page 1? Sorta like this?

I need this resolved ASAP please!

kinchu007 04-03-2008 09:05 PM

I spoke to Jay and he says he's shipping me two rod ends and two nuts on Monday...I guess I will have to install the rears after the corner balancing...will post pics when done.

kinchu007 04-17-2008 07:00 PM

Linky: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/evo-r-adjustable-endlinks-installed-143615/

-RX8- 08-17-2008 12:05 AM

is the amount of the drop a direct correlation to the amount the endlink needs to be adjusted?

ie; one inch drop yields a one inch adjustment in the endlink?

fd3s777 08-17-2008 06:25 AM

Not sure by how much. But I would do it by professional who can do the wheel alignment at same time.

kinchu007 08-17-2008 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by -RX8- (Post 2599441)
is the amount of the drop a direct correlation to the amount the endlink needs to be adjusted?

ie; one inch drop yields a one inch adjustment in the endlink?

no...related to drop, but not one-to-one like that...honestly i think stock ride height car would still benefit from these...the whole idea is to get rid of any pre-load on the sway bars so that they are not working when they shouldn't be and start working faster when they should

takahashi 08-17-2008 07:34 PM

There is a table comes with the kit telling you how much the endlink should be by measuring how much lowered your front suspension is.

It is easy done. I did it myself.

No you don't need to do wheel alignment purely for this. There is nothing in the hub you have changed.

Doing it on a stock height car is purely cosmetic. The stock endlink is actually quite strong. Not the same as the pivot bushes go though. So there may be very very slight benefit.

-RX8- 08-17-2008 11:43 PM

cool, thanks guys

kinchu007 08-18-2008 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by takahashi (Post 2600146)
There is a table comes with the kit telling you how much the endlink should be by measuring how much lowered your front suspension is.

It is easy done. I did it myself.

No you don't need to do wheel alignment purely for this. There is nothing in the hub you have changed.

Doing it on a stock height car is purely cosmetic. The stock endlink is actually quite strong. Not the same as the pivot bushes go though. So there may be very very slight benefit.

Depends if Mazda put any pre-load into the stock swaybars...who knows.

You are right that the polished spherical ball joints are supposed to allow for faster motion...there are pics in this thread comparing the two joints.

XLR83N 08-18-2008 04:57 AM

how much can these endlinks be adjusted? ive lowered my car quite a bit

takahashi 08-18-2008 07:15 PM

From 90mm in length to 104mm in length.

And it is about 104mm for stock and 90mm for front of the car been lowered by 25mm.

fd3s777 08-18-2008 07:42 PM

Takahashi, great input. Thanks!

takahashi 08-18-2008 07:47 PM

You are welcome...


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