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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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Another Tyre Thread-help please

Hello. i've driven 47000km on stock bridgestone lol

now it is all badly worn. almost flat on rears.

anyway.. i've been quoting around few places for set of tyres; including

payless tyre, bob jane, jax, tyre power

out of all... I personally found Hornsby Tyrepower was very friendly and helpful.

I was basically looking for good set of street tyres.

They were;
Falken FK452 Sumitomo HTR Z3 Toyo proxes T1R

and i got quoted $299 for toyo, $279 for falken, $249 for sumitomo.

And also i got quoted for Goodyear F1 GS-DS for $315
Pzero rosso for $450
Dunlop something sport max..i kinda missed what it was...but i assume it was sp sport maxx. It was $319
The sizes were all 235/40/18
Which one do you guys think it will be good choice to make?
I personally think Toyo ones will be good..but also Falkens. Guess they are pretty similar in performance? And do price range seems reasonable?? Well i think they are.


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For more info, i got quoted 235/50/18 michellin ps2
for $635 each from bob Jane o_O
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:29 AM
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Tyre thread number 4,583......
Try the "search" function-there must be enough tyre stuff to fill a phone book.....
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:31 AM
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I bought Maxxis for $199 a corner and I haven't had a problem with them yet. My only regret was on track day when I wish I had the Bridgestones again.

If 90% of your driving is done just going from point A to B (and you don't take it to the track) it dosen't really matter....go with what you can afford.....
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Tyre thread number 4,583......
Try the "search" function-there must be enough tyre stuff to fill a phone book.....
sorry. I actually wasn't after performance of each tyre... although i guess thats what i've asked. I wasn't sure about pricing on them as they tend to fluctuate depending on supplier. so wondered they sounds reasonable.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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i also found going 245/45/18 has almost no problem and best recommended, widest you can go with stock rims and having no rub and suspension problem.

And only problem with 235/40/18 tires is that you will be putting extra miles on your car. So for every 100 miles you actually travel, it will say you've driven 102.2 and lil speedo reading error. (not closer to stock then 245/45/48 )

I understood them..but i wasn't clear on what http://fitments.toyo.com/guide/ explained. something about;
-Never attempt to mount 22" rim diameter tires on any 22.5" diameter rim!
-Never attempt to mount 24" rim diameter tires on any 24.5" diameter rim!
and more.. because of possibility of tyre explosion and etc. is that mean don't stretch your tyres?

I'm assuming fitting 235/40/18 and 245/40/18 have no problem with this..?

or will 235/40/18 might have little problem with above issue?

Another question is.. is lowered rx8 ( by 20mm ) going to have problem fitting 245/40/18?? i tried to search for it..but alot of them was focusing other stuffs..or my lack of search skill :p

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by katana4eva
i also found going 245/45/18 has almost no problem and best recommended, widest you can go with stock rims and having no rub and suspension problem.
:p
I think you mean 245/40/18's rather than 245/45/18. The former has also excatly the same revolutions per km as the stock 225/45/18's, therefore minimal speedo error. See my thread on my new Toyo Proxes 4. Perhaps not quite as "performance" as the T1R, but in the few days I have had them on, I'm a real fan. They grip like all get out and are really great in the wet, are really stable in dead ahead driving, and the turn in is great. They are also very quiet, most likely quieter than the T1R's , which have a classic "performance" pattern, and noise is a secondary consideration in such tyres.

One last thing, I'd go for a Japanese-made tyre in front of tyres from any other country. Simply speaking, the quality control is better.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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I think you mean 245/40/18's rather than 245/45/18. The former has also excatly the same revolutions per km as the stock 225/45/18's, therefore minimal speedo error. See my thread on my new Toyo Proxes 4. Perhaps not quite as "performance" as the T1R, but in the few days I have had them on, I'm a real fan. They grip like all get out and are really great in the wet, are really stable in dead ahead driving, and the turn in is great. They are also very quiet, most likely quieter than the T1R's , which have a classic "performance" pattern, and noise is a secondary consideration in such tyres.

One last thing, I'd go for a Japanese-made tyre in front of tyres from any other country. Simply speaking, the quality control is better.
Oh yea. 245/40/18. my bad. thanks for advice. ( i did look at your threads about having proxes 4 and adjusting tyre pressure and so on ) so how is steering response? so is it pretty similar sharp steering response like stocks or worth? better?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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I had Sumitomo HTR Z3s once, I would definitely buy a set again.
I would've kept the set if they fitted on my Rays wheels.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by katana4eva
Oh yea. 245/40/18. my bad. thanks for advice. ( i did look at your threads about having proxes 4 and adjusting tyre pressure and so on ) so how is steering response? so is it pretty similar sharp steering response like stocks or worth? better?
It's hard to remember what the stocks were like, other than the incessant howling. I had other tyres in between (I've got ~90k km on the clock now). My impression of the steering response is that with the Proxes 4 it is very good. The propaganda from the tyre dealer is that with Toyo's the rubber compound behaves the same way through the entire tread profile over the life of the tyre. To a chemist like me, it suggests that the rubber doesn't harden with age or service on the road. I guess we'll see over the next 3 years or so!
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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if you're just after street tyres, I think you'll be happy with sumitomo/falken/toyo. if you want to have something that you can take to the track every now and then, go for at least goodyear eagle f1.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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Thx ppl! i've ordered toyo t1r 245/40/18.

List of price quoted tyres from Hornsby Tyrepower is: ( just letting you guys know..one day it might become handy )

Toyo T1R $299 for 235/40/18 and $330 for 245/40/18
Falken FK452 $279 for 235/40/18 and $315 for 245/40/18
Sumitomo HTR z3 $249 for 235/40/18
Goodyear F1 GSDS $315 for 235/40/18
Pirelli Pzero rosso $450 for 235/40/18
Dunlop Sp sport maxx? $319 for $235/40/18
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:17 AM
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Looking for new tyres again....

Are Sumitomo HTR z3 $249 for 225/45/18 better then Toyo Proxies 4 225/45/18 ?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Sumitomo have great write up on Tirerack and they tested it and found it to be the number 1 maximum performance tyre. I had falken 452 and they are a good tyre, especially in the wet, but they do have a soft sidewall as do the Toyos. Currently on Dunlop Direzza Sport STarspec and these are fantastic STiff sidewall and phenomenal grip, like driving an R compound tyre. Voted No1 extreme performance tyre by TireRack. IF I were you I would go with Sumitomos.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Where do you get the Dunlop Starspec from?
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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I got them from TireRack on the web, Taka. Got them when they came out on special at $US 129 a tyre. Cost $US 60 a tyre to ship them to my door and $22 to mount and balance. Was when we were at 95c to the dollar. Price is now $US 179 for 225/45. Works out at about $400 to import and fit now. However the car is totally transformed Handles brilliantly and the tires are not noisy or harsh. Turn in is razor sharp and as I said before the grip is phenomenal. I would recommend them to anyone. Don't know how tyres will wear but expect only about 30K from them . Cheap price to pay for brilliant handling and feel.
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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 02:42 AM
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Hi I just posted this in another thread - hello I am a new member. I have a question about tyres. I have a series 2 RX8 with low miles (53,000 k) and it is currently running on CONTINENTAL ContiSportContact 95N 235/40 R18. Does anyone have an opinion about how these tyres compare with 225/45 R18? I am in the Southern Highlands (Moss Vale) and only local driving, so no extremes of hot or cold weather. Thank you.
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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 02:57 AM
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Hi Bob. The 225 tyres you listed are the standard size. Nothing wring with them but I found that here in Aus the 235/40 are cheaper and a bit more responsive on the back roads mainly due to lower profile than standard. The reason 235 are cheaper is because they are more commonly used than 225. Just shop around for price.
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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 03:12 AM
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Thanks so much for getting back to me. I currently have 235/40/R18 and they don't need replacing yet .. I drove fuel injected 2.5 PI Triumphs from 1978 onwards but I got a Series 1 RX8 when it first came out, I sold my Triumph as I couldn't afford to garage and maintain two cars. The RX8 is what the old Triumph Stag could have been developed into if Leyland hadn't stuffed up the British car industry. I was in love with my Series 1 and when I paid out the lease i went to AMR Motors in Sydney and they gave me a $25,000 trade in for the Series 2! The series 2 is a better car in many ways, esp oil management. And a minor but annoying thing was how hard it was to find the dipstick in the Series 1 - buried down deep under the bonnet. The Series 2 has it at a much more accessible position.
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