1 GTR35 Worth 2 Evo X ?
 

According to Jeremy Clarkson :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvwQ96beyQ


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Michael

Woulnd't that be more like 3 EVOs here?

That is one hell of a car that is for sure.

couldn't agree more :)

Top of the range EVO MR is $71,690 + on roads so close to $80,000:Eyecrazy:

GTR 35 around $160,000 :)

Call me a sceptic. One bloke on Utube put an interesting angle on it..."I wonder how much this idiot got paid from Nissan to say all the crap about this car!! lol "

To get a real appreciation of any car you have to see, feel and drive the thing yourself. Whilst I have no doubt the car is fast, with editing, cuts, extra takes etc, believe half of what you see on TV.

No Trev - this thing is the real deal.

Forget about sexed up shopping trolleys like the Evo. The GTR35 will scare crap out of 911 Turbo owners for less than half the price.

Badge snobbery will hurt sales but kudos to Nissan for having the balls to sell it. Makes the dithering of Honda and Toyota over their NSX and Lexus sports car programs look weak. And we won't talk about Mazda's reluctance to make a balls out RX-7...

Any idea when this will arrive in Australia....it may be my next car:)

I was told mid 09 july :) by the Nissan dealer .

Dave IMHO you are incorrect with the GTR 35 You get Supercar performance ,instant status as a real car person and street cred ...........without the Rich prick tag of a Porsche owner .


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Michael

An R35 for my 35th bday?

Decision time now. Do I wait 12 months for this car or spend money on suspension and FI on the RX8.

What would you do?

skc

If you can only have one car, then the GTR

I planned to keep my 8 and FI it down the stage. It worth barely $30K now and I think it is cheap enough to be a track car :)

For the amount that people have spent on the RX8 IN mods and FI They could be a lot closer to the............. GTR 35 so be patient and wait .

But for $40.000 less you could settle for one of these .

I wouldn't be able to resist modding an R35 GTR if I had one..

From what I have seen so far a FI RX 8 does not show a marked increase in performance on the track. In fact my times in a stock car with no mods has been better than some FI cars at QR.

The constant high revving causes over heating with FI on the track.

Still I have to consider is there a FI system out there that can overcome these issues in the RX 8 and if so how close will it come to the GTR in performance.

I love the RX8 for what it is and may be I am dreaming that it can have super car capabilities.

This Lotus EVORA looks the part and saves you $50.000 on the price of a GTR35

http://www.channel4.com/4car/gl/gallery/gallery/23942/2

Sorry could not post pics :dunno:


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Michael

I'd like to have the money to try a renisis engine in a Lotus Exige..

After seeing the flat Black version in the Nissan, and then witnessing the Lotus for triple that amount...I'll reserve my judgement...for now.

http://www.maxspeed.us/2008/06/the-f...in-flat-black/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/...5d78a6.jpg?v=0

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/atta...-ferrari-1.jpg

That's the best colour I've ever seen on a car! The Ferrari especially..

It is down to the driver handling the power.

Not when Craig is more than 4 secs a lap faster than me at Sandown that I must get a tubro kit.

BTW NOTHING will have GTR performance, even R34, so forget it.

I don't quite understand where we disagree and I agree with your comments. This thing will have huge street and track cred. Being able to handle it will be another issue.

Wait for the R35, without a doubt. It's engineered from top to bottom to handle the power it's got. Powering up an RX8 will always be the poor man's option and you'll forever be worrying when it will all go pop!

Get a deposit down now - that 12 months will fly by...

Agreed Taka - the RX8 makes good sense as a track car but if you can only own one, the R35 every time.

Just buy the R-spec version - I reckon that'd be more than enough car for anyone this side of the Stig. Modding it would be a vanity project.

Remember, the RX8 is engineered down to a price. The R35 has been engineered over it's price. No contest in my view.

Obviously love my car too but the R35 is just in a whole other league.

Of course it is in another league it is $100K more money also.
Who wouldn't want one?
It is fantastic car and they have put things in it that frankly make me wonder how much money Nissian are losing on each one sold.

Unless the lotto drops for me or the market shoots up 70% or so, I will not be buying one, can't justify spending that amount of money on a car unless it is purely for investment purposes and I knew it is was going to increase in value at 20% a year.

Looks like I will start saving my pennies now for the new GTR.

In the meantime we are looking at upgrading the family car to possibly a X5...still researching our options.

skc

X5 ...............Nah go for the new X6 :)


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Michael

If it is like other Nissans the warranty claims won't be cheap.
Either they are making money or is is a loss leading brand - building exercise.

I pick money maker.
Porsches should be so cheap.

I would agree until you look at the electronics in that car.
Some of the stuff they are doing with it is light years ahead of any other car on the market.

...are you guys serious? The designers have dragged the R35s shape out of an Executives arsehole. Besides, how do you justify spending an extra 100K on a car like that, when you can't use the HP (legally) 99% of the time anyhow?:lol:

Trevor the GTR 35 would make a great covert unmarked police car , Everyone would try and drag you at the lights :lol: :lol: :lol:

However youd have to make sure your boys did not leave the key in the car :) like those other guys who had their police car stolen :lol2: :lol2: :sadwavey:

What the bad guys don't know is that its not speed, but it comes down to simple driving ability with the added bonus of lights and sirens. Whilst there may be many cars which are faster than police cars, it doesnt mean you can outrun them. :icon_no2:

Police are highly trained driving professionals and have back up available - everywhere. Their skills are over and above advanced drivers and combined with technology it dosen't pay to try to outrun them at the lights. :eyetwitch

And it dosen't pay to try to steal one... http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.c...article/352292

..and the real answer to your question Michael is no. The government dosen't give us enough money to buy big boys toys!:lol2:

No point running if it is your car.

They also don't have to pay for the damage to their cars.
I remember a story I heard my father tell one of his police colleagues when I was a child about how he terminated the pursuit of a couple of armed robbery suspects. They should never have pointed the sawn-off shotgun at him.
I don't think either car would have been worth much as salvage value.

I didn't realise your Dad was a copper thisllub, I'm sure he'd have a few more beauties like that up his sleeve.:)

Why is it Michael whenever you and I get involved in a thread it coms back to the boys in blue? :eyetwitch

Back on topic...no-one will convince me the GT dosen't look neater or have the same uniqueness factor than our RX8....I concur its got a lot of grunt, but like some people say...size dosen't matter....:lol:

One of his friends was a great story teller.
The best story I remember was about an allegedly rabid dog that was terrorising an old lady.

This senior constable is a bit of an animal lover and decides to ignore the pleas to shoot the dog and convinces the dog to get in the back of the wagon.
He takes the dog to a quiet bit of bush behind the local tip and opens the door but the dog refuses to go.
The rest is obvious.
In an attempt to get the dog out the door blows shut leaving him locked up in the back with a large pissed off dog.
It took the local station quite a while to find them. Back in the 1960s there were no GPS systems and tracking devices like there are now.

yeah right... thats why the fools think they can break the law and endanger the public. police are some of the worst drivers on the road. I've lost count of the number of times I have seen police vehicles break the law for no reason other than they are shit drivers that think they have the right to do whatever they want.

This thread is going downhill and is going way off topic...but to defend what your saying here goes. You give the police a broad based spray, but you don't drill down to time, date and place and the statement isn't backed up with facts. I bet you London to a brick the instances you are talking about were witnessed when they were attending to an urgent job of some sorts.

Now take the example of someone flogging the crap out of you and you needed help - quickly. You wouldn't expect the police to be driving at a leisurely speed to get to you would you?

One step further, someone was breaking into your house while you are at home. It's not burglary, it's called a home invasion. God forbid they have a weapon. You had better make sure you have your wits about you, and have a solid course of action because I assume you will call the police for help? The question remains.... when do you expect them to be there?

I'm not saying these were the exact examples of what you are talking about, but they provide a bit of an insight into what police officers face....every single day.

Phew...back on topic, I saw that electronics panel too Monte and whilst I was initially impressed to start off with, I can't help thinking its engineered to impress techno heads, or friends and family sitting in it for the first time.

To get a good appreciation I would like to see it in the flesh. I suspect the thrill of seeing all of those fancy lights and gauges would wear off (or become faulty) in time....

BTW the link Michael posted up has been removed by BBC because it 'breached copyright laws'. :scratchhe

Heres another to get in....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzbPiW6VY_k

for any instance where police need to speed I would expect them to attend to the emergency with due care.

I won't drag the thread down any further but I can give examples if necessary that indicates that police aren't "trained driving professionals" and their skills aren't that great either.

This is the most accurate thing anybody's said in this thread so far.

Porsche only get what they charge for their cars because people are prepared to pay it. It is a very profitable car company....

You've been drinking too much XXXX Trev and have completely missed the point of this car.

Nothing else comes close for the price. In comparative terms it's a bargain.

And design is always subjective. I like it.

I also defy anyone to trawl through this forum and show me if on any given day someone dosen't go off track, or emblishes on the truth.:lol:

Design is a personal thing, and you're very right - its subjective. Diversity is a good thing for the world. The early reviews look good, but I stand my point of view on the reliability of electronic gauges, and the R35 reeks of them everywhere. Call me an old fashioned bastard, but it lights up like the inside of a space shuttle.

I understand how it basically works....light goes down a fibre optic cable detects variances with a sensor, which then measures an air gap etc. However, I think the super high temperature/high pressure environments generated by the R35 could limit the life of every electronic component in the car.

Its a well known fact the fibre optic technology used in cars can't handle the high temperature, vibrations, and pressure conditions very well, and there is a high likelihood of them failing after a couple of years.

I have no doubt that as technology improves, so will the reliability factor...but for now I still reserve my judgement.

...and no sir, I won't give up my beer. ;)

Trev electronics are very mature in cars and very reliable over all.
Consider that Jet aircraft that fly around the world on a daily basis are doing it all by wire or electronics.

That car has some of the most sophisticated electronics in the world in it. And lets face it if there is anything the Japanese are really good at it is electronics.
The sensors in that car measure the wheels, g forces etc. and automatically adjust to the driving condition at a millionth of a second.

That car is going to be a killer on track, I can almost understand how Clarkson did his neck in going around the track as the electronics can keep it on the track under conditions that the average person cannot stand the g forces of.

Reminds me back when cart was still a racing org and they decided to put on a race at Texas Motor speedway which was a purpose built NASCAR oval track with huge 24 degree banked curves. They were going so fast and the electronics in the cars were sticking them so well the drivers were blacking out in the corners at over 250 mph during practice from too many g forces. They had to call the race and cancel racing those cars at that track.

http://www.texasmotorspeedway.com/TrackFacts.aspx

The public perception of the police is that they are there when you don't want them and not when you do.

The police can't be blamed for this but can be blamed for how they handle this,
I have had two tickets in 20 years. One speed camera in Victoria in 1996 when I didn't realise the speed limit was 60 and one for using a mobile phone whilst driving earlier this year (something I don't approve of but had a good if not legal reason for doing in this circumstance).
On the other side of the ledger-
Last year we hosted an "after party" for my daughter's year 12.
We live on 120 acres and have only one reasonable way in and out of the property, unless you don't mind swimming fully clothed through creeks.
We informed the police of the party early in the week. Apparently some intending gatecrashers learned of the party because it was written on a whiteboard at the police station in full view of the public.
Despite our best efforts 1 gatecrasher got in.
Said gatecrasher, probably under the combined influence of amphetamines and alcohol started damaging property and decided to fight me when I attempted to kick him out.
Somehow at the last minute he calmed down and left only to return and "donut" around a fireplace with 20 or so kids nearby.
I called the police and 2 hours later received a return call to tell me it was the end of their shift and they couldn't come.
That night we had more than 200 kids at our house. Nowhere in the command area could such a potentially risky event have occured that night.
I can't reasonably imagine a situation where a greater community need for policing existed yet said request was denied.
I can imagine that these situations frustrate police officers as much as the public.
We should expect, be prepared to pay for, and get more from our police.

Now all we need to do is win the lottery, dump my girlfriend who actually happens to be bitching at me right now....someone make her stop...and then get a new one and buy this car. Game, Set, Match!...OMG...She's still going!

the GTR is a engineering marvel but this one doesn't make me dream of owning one. I like the r34 shape even though it isn't very sporty. maybe the r35 is to clinical?