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Old 08-24-2004, 04:21 PM   #1
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Sport Compact Car's 100 greatest cars list

I haven't seen the issue yet, but someone from the RX-7 Forum posted it.

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100. 1975-'76 Chevrolet Cosworth Vega
99. 1984-'87 Peogeot 205 GTi
98. 1999-Present Mazda Miata MX-5
97. 1992-'93 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T
96. 1987 Dodge Charger GLH-S
95. 1978-'81 Toyota Celica
94. 1992- '96 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
93. 1994-'97 Toyota Celica GT-Four
92. 1994-'00 Mitsubishi FTO
91. 1992-'94 Mazda Familia GT-R
90. 1980-'86 Renault R5 Turbo
89. 1992-'01 Subaru Impreza WRX
88. 2002-Present Honda Civic Type-R
87. 2000-Present Toyota Celica GT-S
86. 1986-'91 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
85. 1967-'72 Mazda Cosmo Sport
84. 1973-'74 Toyota Corolla SR5
83. 1954- '64 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe
82. 1986- '89 Dodge Conquest Turbo
81. 1986-'89 Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
80. 1990-'94 Eagle Talon TSi
79. 1998-'01 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
78. 2000-Present Toyota MR2 Spyder
77. 2003-Present Hyundai Tiburon
76. 2001-Present Lexus IS300
75. 2002-Present Acura RSX Type-S
74. 1984-'86 Dodge Omni GLH
73. 1987 Dodge Omni GLH-S
72. 1992-'95 Honda Civic Si
71. 2002-Present Honda NSX Type-R
70. 2002-Present Honda Integra Type-R
69. 1971-'73 Ford Escort Mexico
68. 1985 Ford RS200
67. 1986-'94 Lancia Delta Integrale
66. 1996-'01 Audi A4
65. 1972-'78 Mazda RX-3
64. 1990-'99 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4
63. 1991-'96 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
62. 1985-'88 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V
61. 1991-'93 Toyota Celica ALL-TRAC
60. 1995-'99 BMW M3
59. 1995-'98 Nissan 240SX
58. 1963-'66 Ford Cortina Lotus Mark I
57. 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR4
56. 1995-'01 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33)
55. 1999-'00 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI
54. 2000-Present Renault Clio V6
53. 1996-'97 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV
52. 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution I
51. 1962-'73 Lotus Elan
50. 1985-'87 Honda CRX Si
49. 1989-'93 Nissan 240SX
48. 1971-'74 BMW 2002 Tii
47. 1987-'92 Toyota Supra Turbo
46. 2002-'04 Ford SVT Focus
45. 1970-'72 Mazda R100
44. 1991-'95 Toyota MR2 Turbo
43. 2004-Present Volkswagen R32
42. 1992-'94 Volkswagen Corrado SLC
41. 2003-Present Infiniti G35 Coupe
40. 1993-'96 Honda Prelude VTEC
39. 1997-'01 Honda Prelude Type SH
38. 1987-'93 Volkswagen Golf GTi
37. 1999-'01 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)
36. 1988-'91 BMW M3
35. 1974-'75 Lancia Stratos
34. 1990 Mazda Miata MX-5
33. 2004-Present Lotus Elise
32. 2000-Present Honda S2000
31. 1978-'85 Mazda RX-7
30. 1992-'93 Acura Integra GS-R
29. 2002-Present Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC V
28. 1991-'94 Nissan Sentra SE-R
27. 1988-'91 Honda CRX Si
26. 1982-'85 Toyota Celica Supra
25. 1971-'77 Toyota Celica
24. 1988-'89 Toyota Celica
23. 1988-'89 Mazda 323 GTX
22. 1999-'03 Nissan Silvia (S15)
21. 1999-'00 Honda Civic Si
20. 1967-'69 Toyota 2000GT
19. 1993-'96 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
18. 1990-'94 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
17. 2004-Present Mazda RX-8
16. 2003-Present Dodge Neon SRT-4
15. 1990-Present Acura NSX
14. 1970-'73 Datsun 240Z
13. 1990-'96 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo
12. 2003-Present Subaru Impreza WRX STi
11. 2003-Present Nissan 350Z
10. 1985-'87 Toyota Corolla GT-S
9. 1968-'73 Datsun 510
8. 1962-'03 Austin Mini Cooper
7. 1990-'94 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32)
6. 1994-'98 Toyota Supra Turbo
5. 1975-'85 Volkswagen GTi
4. 1997-'01 Acura Integra Type-R
3. 2002-Present Subaru Impreza WRX
2. 1992-'95 Honda Civic
1. 2003-Present Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
This looks like a list some ricer put together. Seriously, the EG is number two, and the EVO is number one? The Mitsu fans will be a'cheering this, but they all know deep inside their days are numbered.
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Old 08-24-2004, 07:15 PM   #2
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I haven't seen the issue yet, but someone from the RX-7 Forum posted it.



This looks like a list some ricer put together. Seriously, the EG is number two, and the EVO is number one? The Mitsu fans will be a'cheering this, but they all know deep inside their days are numbered.
The WRX (3) beat out the STi (12)? I mean, this list is obviously not based on performance, but really... There's nothing that the WRX does that the STi can't do at least as well, if not better, except for the sticker price. Even then, the STi is still more bang for your buck. Does anyone know how they came up with the rankings?
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Old 08-24-2004, 07:31 PM   #3
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Of the many questions this list raises in my head, one I just can't help to ask. Why is the 1990 Miata and then 1999 till the present miata on the list, but not all the other years for those 2 generations?
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Old 08-24-2004, 07:37 PM   #4
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2. 1992-'95 Honda Civic

I guess I will have to see the ranking criteria
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Old 08-24-2004, 11:06 PM   #5
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Well, fir5st of all, this is a list of the 100 greatest sport compacts. Second, t's a subjective list that incorporates more than performance. Historical significance, innovation, 'cool' factor, etc., all play a part. The WRX going on sale in America, when there was no proven market, was a lot more significant than us also getting the STi. As they say in the magazine, if the WRX hadn't sold so well, we never would have gotten the EVO.

Of course, the stock EG Civic couldn't hold a candle to many of the cars on this list, but it's certainly the definitive and ubiquitous sport compact. You talk about aftermarket support . . .

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Old 08-25-2004, 02:18 AM   #6
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They had to put the Civic on #2 spot, it never misses a mag issue. I bet there's always a Civic on their issue. They know that majority of their buyers/readers own or are fans of modded Civics.
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Old 08-25-2004, 04:03 AM   #7
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I disregard this list because IMO Sport Compact Car magazine is not the most credible or balanced source. Yes, like all magazines they have their opinions and views, but I believe that SCC and its editorial staff are way into themselves. IMO a magazine that delivers specs and commentary on actual cars is better than a mag which focuses on the ppl who build/promote them. When I read a mag, I want to find out about the cars which interest me, their performance and how they acheived it. I don't want to hear the editorial mumbo jumbo about how they really like it or don't like it based on their personal bias.

IMO Modified Magazine is a much better put together auto enthusiast magazine, plus it gives plenty of attention to rotaries too.
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:20 AM   #8
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Geez, you would think my car would be on that list, I demand a recount
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There are 4 Civics, and 6 Celicas on that list.

Greatest cars ever? Don't think so.
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A Civic number 2? WTF? I don't care how many people have a modded Civic, it's still an economy car with NO performance of value. The Type R/Si is another issue.
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I'm glad they put the Supra at 47, under the Focus. Because the Supra is crap compared to the awesome @#$# power of teh focus!

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Old 08-25-2004, 10:23 AM   #12
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Old 08-25-2004, 10:54 AM   #13
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yeah, seriously retarded. the current miata at 98 or something???

at least the RX-3 is better than the previous model Audi A4 :p
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This list doesnt make sense in the least bit. How do you put a 92-95 Civic SI at #72 then 92-95 Civic at #2? Not to mention no mention of the Mustang or Camaro or T/A at all. Are you kidding me?
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If you know a good amount about sport compacts you could certainly find a way to justify most of the cars and their position on the list. However, the 90-94 Eclipse at #18 and then the 90-94 Talon at # 80 is a bit baffling.
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Everybodie's going to find fault with where their favorite car is on the list....who cares....all 100 are cool cars. I'm glad all the cars I've owned are on the list, AE86, MA61 Supra, FB RX7, FC RX7, RX8.
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I'm glad they put the Supra at 47, under the Focus. Because the Supra is crap compared to the awesome @#$# power of teh focus!

PS: Somebody set us up the bomb.
Actually, that IS true. With the euro suspension set-up for European A and B roads the Focus has the pleasure to focus (no pun) more on handling characteristics with it's free revving 2.3 duratech engine. The suspension set-up especially on the C1 platform is something to be truly in awe of.
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SCC is a very biased magazine, though they still can be a good read from time to time, especially the older issues. I'm currently awaiting on my free Grassroots Motorsports so I can subsrcibe via snail mail. I'm also looking for RX-Tuner, but I can't seem to find any in my area (nothing but Mustang and ricer mags on these shelves).
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Actually, that IS true. With the euro suspension set-up for European A and B roads the Focus has the pleasure to focus (no pun) more on handling characteristics with it's free revving 2.3 duratech engine. The suspension set-up especially on the C1 platform is something to be truly in awe of.
Plus the 87-92 Supra was an overpriced pig of a car.
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If only the JZA/MA70 wasn't so fat, it would be an awesome car. Same thing for the JZA80 Supra. Porkers. :p
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Plus the 87-92 Supra was an overpriced pig of a car.
hehe I was joking. I didn't even know what year Supra they were talking about.
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If you know a good amount about sport compacts you could certainly find a way to justify most of the cars and their position on the list. However, the 90-94 Eclipse at #18 and then the 90-94 Talon at # 80 is a bit baffling.
Maybe they forgot that the TSi could also be had with AWD? That's the only reasoning I could come up with.
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Maybe they forgot that the TSi could also be had with AWD? That's the only reasoning I could come up with.
The Talon was actually more common in the turbo and AWD form since they didn't offer a base model until 93, so it's tough to think SCC would have that reasoning. Maybe the Mitsubishi got the nod since it was prettymuch a Mitsubishi whether it be a Talon, Laser, or Eclipse...
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A very entertaining list to read, but kind of weird results.

The RX-8 is the highest ranking Mazda model, which is cool. But the original '78 RX-7 is the one that most other mags list in their top “this or that” list. It’s the car that really put the Rotary and Mazda on the map after all. I'd say the Miata is also a more signifcant car in the history of automobilia than the RX-8. Go figure.
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A very entertaining list to read, but kind of weird results.

The RX-8 is the highest ranking Mazda model, which is cool. But the original '78 RX-7 is the one that most other mags list in their top “this or that” list. It’s the car that really put the Rotary and Mazda on the map after all. I'd say the Miata is also a more signifcant car in the history of automobilia than the RX-8. Go figure.

I'd say the RX-8 and the 350Z are high on the list because they are fresh in people memories and the hot new thing. It's like looking at a greatest records of all time list, they always put some recent records on there that vanish from the same list a few years later. Not saying the RX-8 and the 350Z don't deserve to be on the list but a few years from now either of them could easily move up or down considerably while most of the older cars would probably hold their spot.
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