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Old 02-04-2007, 09:11 PM   #1
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"Don't be afraid to rev it - even when it's cold"

The title is a little bit of wisdom I got from a service advisor when I picked up my car from the recall last Friday. Keep in mind, it's wintertime in Canada, so by cold he meant -20C and colder that we regularly get here. I specifically asked about the thermal shock effect given that the engine is made of layer of dissimilar metals, he said that this isn't a problem with "the new technology".

Does Mazda even train these people? This just supports the opinion I already had that service advisors are full of it.

On the bright side, he did tell me to rev it, so if ever I have an engine problem, they can't really accuse me of abuse.
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:42 PM   #2
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I don't think that the service advisors are mechanics or are trained on the specifics of the cars. The '8 won't rev to redline until warmed up anyway.
Since the '8 is a sports car they can't really claim that enthusiastic driving is abuse!
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:53 PM   #3
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Air temps don't matter, if that was what he was talking about. A running warm engine will not be cooled that much by the cold air. If the engine's warm, rev it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:11 PM   #4
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They run better in cold dense air anyway. REV IT UP! Run it hard.
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I don't think that the service advisors are mechanics or are trained on the specifics of the cars. The '8 won't rev to redline until warmed up anyway.
Since the '8 is a sports car they can't really claim that enthusiastic driving is abuse!
Is this why I can't get above 6000 when I first leave from work in the evening?
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:40 PM   #6
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Air temps don't matter, if that was what he was talking about. A running warm engine will not be cooled that much by the cold air. If the engine's warm, rev it.
I guess I wasn't totally clear. What he said was to rev it hard when the engine is cold. I have no problem revving the car once the engine is warm.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:44 PM   #7
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I will let the engine warm up first. Then I drive it like I stole it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:38 PM   #8
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I will let the engine warm up first. Then I drive it like I stole it.
Yeah. I let the coolant temp hit the first 1-3 bars, then it's good. I've come to find that if you warm it up until there, it feels a lot better than letting it warm up more than that.

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Is this why I can't get above 6000 when I first leave from work in the evening?
Yup. One of thse things in the owner's manual.
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Is this why I can't get above 6000 when I first leave from work in the evening?
thats because the ECU said so.
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Yup. One of thse things in the owner's manual.
Cool I learned something new today! I looked but it just says it will "prevent it from getting into the red area" Guess that means 6K
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try to do it ... rev it hard cold, see what happens... the ecu is smart...

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Heh- I thought my spark plugs were acting up when I hit that limit for the first time the other day- usually my car is warmed up enough by the time I leave my neighborhood or work that I don't hit it.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:58 PM   #14
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Most service reps are freakin retards. Mine told me there was no break in period and that it would be safe to track it the weekend after i bought it. I was just asking to see what he would say. He is a nice enough guy and has worked for mazda forever but a master mechanic he is not.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:15 PM   #15
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My service rep asked me if I knew about the flooding issue. When I told him I did know about it, he says, "Yeah, these high performance engines really need to be warmed up."

Me: "Well yeah, but it's because it's a rotary. It's a different engine design. It's not THAT high performance."

Him: "It's really high performance, that's why it needs to be warmed up, just like Ferrari's and Lambos."
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:36 PM   #17
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problem is .. my engine doesnt get warm lately by the time i get to work or back .. summers are so much better
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