Will It Fit Thread
08-03-2012, 04:41 PM
#8601
Danny Rotstein
iTrader: (10)
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I wasn't "banging" on him for the lip. I was "banging" on him for getting an $80 poly urethane lip and ruining his bumper with it by drilling holes through it! I had the same lip, I even said it was fun to drag around.
08-03-2012, 04:51 PM
#8602
Danny Rotstein
iTrader: (10)
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here's a little challenge for you guys. Searched and didn't find much on this specific need. It'll sound a bit ridiculous, but it's all for the sake of function with no concerns for "flushness".
What is the WIDEST one can go with 18" wheels meeting these guidelines:
- No staggering (squared only)
-(No narrower than) 275/35/18
- No fender modifications other than slight shaving of the rear tab (no metal rolling)
- No more than -2.5 camber
Of course there is the usual 18x9.5 +45 and the stuffing of tires wider than 275 on it. But I am looking for something even wider. The width comes first and the offset obviously comes accordingly to the width for the widest stuffing of the wheel wells and clearing of the brakes, which shouldn't be that hard with factory calipers.
I recalled tiltmode's Weds Kranzes in 19x11.5 ET31 (may be a little off) having problems clearing the inside as it was hitting the unibody. So perhaps tiltmode can chime in on some wheel well stuffing insight?
What is the WIDEST one can go with 18" wheels meeting these guidelines:
- No staggering (squared only)
-(No narrower than) 275/35/18
- No fender modifications other than slight shaving of the rear tab (no metal rolling)
- No more than -2.5 camber
Of course there is the usual 18x9.5 +45 and the stuffing of tires wider than 275 on it. But I am looking for something even wider. The width comes first and the offset obviously comes accordingly to the width for the widest stuffing of the wheel wells and clearing of the brakes, which shouldn't be that hard with factory calipers.
I recalled tiltmode's Weds Kranzes in 19x11.5 ET31 (may be a little off) having problems clearing the inside as it was hitting the unibody. So perhaps tiltmode can chime in on some wheel well stuffing insight?
Last year I had 275/35/19 on 19x10 +20 tires in the rear and was only dropped about 1.5" in the rear and had some serious rubbing issues. I had to run over -5 degrees of camber to make it work with extensive fender work. This example though is a problem due to offset though.
Running anything bigger than a 275 is completely pointless too. A 275 on an 11" rim will already be stretched so you'll get some meaty looking fitment no matter what.
If you want no stretch on the tire 10" is the widest you can go.
Hope this helps you narrow it down.
08-03-2012, 05:04 PM
#8603
Here's a little challenge for you guys. Searched and didn't find much on this specific need. It'll sound a bit ridiculous, but it's all for the sake of function with no concerns for "flushness".
What is the WIDEST one can go with 18" wheels meeting these guidelines:
- No staggering (squared only)
-(No narrower than) 275/35/18
- No fender modifications other than slight shaving of the rear tab (no metal rolling)
- No more than -2.5 camber
- On Progress Tech springs and soon to be Koni Yellows. Won't be much of a drop at all.
Of course there is the usual 18x9.5 +45 and the stuffing of tires wider than 275 on it. But I am looking for something even wider. The width comes first and the offset obviously comes accordingly to the width for the widest stuffing of the wheel wells and clearing of the brakes, which shouldn't be that hard with factory calipers.
I recalled tiltmode's Weds Kranzes in 19x11.5 ET31 (may be a little off) having problems clearing the inside as it was hitting the unibody. So perhaps tiltmode can chime in on some wheel well stuffing insight?
What is the WIDEST one can go with 18" wheels meeting these guidelines:
- No staggering (squared only)
-(No narrower than) 275/35/18
- No fender modifications other than slight shaving of the rear tab (no metal rolling)
- No more than -2.5 camber
- On Progress Tech springs and soon to be Koni Yellows. Won't be much of a drop at all.
Of course there is the usual 18x9.5 +45 and the stuffing of tires wider than 275 on it. But I am looking for something even wider. The width comes first and the offset obviously comes accordingly to the width for the widest stuffing of the wheel wells and clearing of the brakes, which shouldn't be that hard with factory calipers.
I recalled tiltmode's Weds Kranzes in 19x11.5 ET31 (may be a little off) having problems clearing the inside as it was hitting the unibody. So perhaps tiltmode can chime in on some wheel well stuffing insight?
Matt (tilt) was running a lot of camber and had a lot of fender work done to his Rx8. It also depends what you're lowered on. If you're on springs (which I'm assuming you're not since you want to run wider than 10's.) From my experience, with no more than -2.5 camber in the rear you wont achieve much width unless you're unreasonably high.
Last year I had 275/35/19 on 19x10 +20 tires in the rear and was only dropped about 1.5" in the rear and had some serious rubbing issues. I had to run over -5 degrees of camber to make it work with extensive fender work. This example though is a problem due to offset though.
Running anything bigger than a 275 is completely pointless too. A 275 on an 11" rim will already be stretched so you'll get some meaty looking fitment no matter what.
If you want no stretch on the tire 10" is the widest you can go.
Hope this helps you narrow it down.
Last year I had 275/35/19 on 19x10 +20 tires in the rear and was only dropped about 1.5" in the rear and had some serious rubbing issues. I had to run over -5 degrees of camber to make it work with extensive fender work. This example though is a problem due to offset though.
Running anything bigger than a 275 is completely pointless too. A 275 on an 11" rim will already be stretched so you'll get some meaty looking fitment no matter what.
If you want no stretch on the tire 10" is the widest you can go.
Hope this helps you narrow it down.
Ideally, I want to be able to run on 295's squared with as much wheel width as possible. I know many are running Hoosier A6 285/30/18 on factory wheels (with much ballooning of course), some have consistently ran 295's. Hoosier A6's can run up to 20mm wider than factory tires. So in other words, I want to run 295's squared without ballooning the tires
.
Last edited by SayNoToPistons; 08-03-2012 at 05:06 PM.
08-03-2012, 05:14 PM
#8604
Phone Booth'd
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cincinnasty
Posts: 2,441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Why do you want that much tire?
Nnless you have 100whp more than stock, you don't need anything more than a 245 on a road course. Anything wider won't get enough heat in the tires evenly.
For dodging cones in a parking lot, the same applies unless you're running r-comps, then you might want more tire for cold grip since they won't get hot enough anyway.
Nnless you have 100whp more than stock, you don't need anything more than a 245 on a road course. Anything wider won't get enough heat in the tires evenly.
For dodging cones in a parking lot, the same applies unless you're running r-comps, then you might want more tire for cold grip since they won't get hot enough anyway.
08-03-2012, 05:16 PM
#8605
Danny Rotstein
iTrader: (10)
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Looking for the widest without much care for how low of an offset I go.
Sorry, updated post with suspension set up. It is in the above quote. Progress Tech springs with Koni yellows, which is barely a drop.
I want to run 295's squared without ballooning the tires .
Sorry, updated post with suspension set up. It is in the above quote. Progress Tech springs with Koni yellows, which is barely a drop.
I want to run 295's squared without ballooning the tires
.
08-03-2012, 05:17 PM
#8606
18x11 +50 is my best guess
I've ran 18x10 +40 w/265/35's on a 1" drop (swift springs)
I easily had enough space to fit 275's - probably even more.
Hoosier tires are fat tho...never dealt with them personally.
If you're gonna try n' run it squared up - best to keep the offset as high as possible to give you some play along the fenders.
Hope this helps
I've ran 18x10 +40 w/265/35's on a 1" drop (swift springs)
I easily had enough space to fit 275's - probably even more.
Hoosier tires are fat tho...never dealt with them personally.
If you're gonna try n' run it squared up - best to keep the offset as high as possible to give you some play along the fenders.
Hope this helps
08-03-2012, 05:42 PM
#8607
Why do you want that much tire?
Nnless you have 100whp more than stock, you don't need anything more than a 245 on a road course. Anything wider won't get enough heat in the tires evenly.
For dodging cones in a parking lot, the same applies unless you're running r-comps, then you might want more tire for cold grip since they won't get hot enough anyway.
Nnless you have 100whp more than stock, you don't need anything more than a 245 on a road course. Anything wider won't get enough heat in the tires evenly.
For dodging cones in a parking lot, the same applies unless you're running r-comps, then you might want more tire for cold grip since they won't get hot enough anyway.
Pics of 285 A6's on factory wheels. Click link as the pic is ******* HUGE.
https://www.rx8club.com/attachments/...8-imgp0262-jpg
18x11 +50 is my best guess
I've ran 18x10 +40 w/265/35's on a 1" drop (swift springs)
I easily had enough space to fit 275's - probably even more.
Hoosier tires are fat tho...never dealt with them personally.
If you're gonna try n' run it squared up - best to keep the offset as high as possible to give you some play along the fenders.
Hope this helps
I've ran 18x10 +40 w/265/35's on a 1" drop (swift springs)
I easily had enough space to fit 275's - probably even more.
Hoosier tires are fat tho...never dealt with them personally.
If you're gonna try n' run it squared up - best to keep the offset as high as possible to give you some play along the fenders.
Hope this helps
Last edited by SayNoToPistons; 08-03-2012 at 05:46 PM.
08-03-2012, 06:43 PM
#8609
Phone Booth'd
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cincinnasty
Posts: 2,441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You still didn't answer why you wanted to do it. If you're doing it for Autox It will put you into a street prepared class and you'll get your *** handed to you and likely won't have any fun.
a 18x10.5 + 45-50 might fit 295's without a roll depending on ride hight and the amount of camber you're running. You'll likely need a roll though. It will look pretty sunk as well, so if you're doing it for looks, you're going to fail.
the reason you're having a hard time finding an answer is because not many people are doing it. The autox guys don't run that much tire, the track guys don't run that much tire, and the fitment guys don't run that much tire or that high of an offset.
a 18x10.5 + 45-50 might fit 295's without a roll depending on ride hight and the amount of camber you're running. You'll likely need a roll though. It will look pretty sunk as well, so if you're doing it for looks, you're going to fail.
the reason you're having a hard time finding an answer is because not many people are doing it. The autox guys don't run that much tire, the track guys don't run that much tire, and the fitment guys don't run that much tire or that high of an offset.
08-03-2012, 08:48 PM
#8611
There are quite a few local CS 8's running 285/30 A6's. It will be mainly for AutoX, yes. Yes I am aware that it will throw me into SP, which will be extremely competitive.
I am looking at a set of CCW classics for sale. 18x10 +50. I am assuming these will fit without an issue because of the high offset, will be "sunk", and will "look retarded" to some.
All I'm asking is what will be the widest 18" wheel that will fit in the wheel wells (without modification) and with what offset would that width have to associate with?
Pic of CCW Classics if anyone cares...
I am looking at a set of CCW classics for sale. 18x10 +50. I am assuming these will fit without an issue because of the high offset, will be "sunk", and will "look retarded" to some.
All I'm asking is what will be the widest 18" wheel that will fit in the wheel wells (without modification) and with what offset would that width have to associate with?
Pic of CCW Classics if anyone cares...
08-04-2012, 06:42 AM
#8613
Registered
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Okay guys what do you think if I run 245/35/19 8.5x19+35 offset in front and 265/35/19 in rears 9.5x19 +35 offset. Will there be any rubbing?( my car is stock). If they only poke out, what I must do; lower it?
08-04-2012, 02:18 PM
#8617
Registered
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
08-07-2012, 03:12 AM
#8618
OMGITM!
iTrader: (15)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sunny Southern California
Posts: 3,513
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
Measure inner clearance. With camber bolt @ 50% the 19x11.5 ET31 had inner clearance issue @ compression. I went to 11.5 ET26 but still have to do some inner modification to allow proper clearance. Pretty much the limit for inner, and this is wheel clearance. If you plan on having a fat tire, depending on wheel width, you will run into inner problems at compression.
295's can definitely fit. Will require a light bit of fender work with the right width & offset wheel. I would say one could get 315's to fit with the proper offset, wheel width, and offset.
295's can definitely fit. Will require a light bit of fender work with the right width & offset wheel. I would say one could get 315's to fit with the proper offset, wheel width, and offset.
08-07-2012, 09:01 AM
#8619
Registered
19x8.5 +30 - 235/35/19
19x9.5 +25 - 265/30/19
I'm currently on Mazdaspeed springs (slightly lower than stock) with slightly rolled fenders and no spacers and have no issues but I want to go lower (and the stock struts are trash in the rear...)
I am looking to buy the Powertrix coilovers and lower the car to get a nice stance. Will I need to run spacers for this to look good? Or will my offsets/size sit pretty flush? I don't want wheel gap but I don't want to rub on every bump
Thanks in advance! Current picture for reference:
19x9.5 +25 - 265/30/19
I'm currently on Mazdaspeed springs (slightly lower than stock) with slightly rolled fenders and no spacers and have no issues but I want to go lower (and the stock struts are trash in the rear...)
I am looking to buy the Powertrix coilovers and lower the car to get a nice stance. Will I need to run spacers for this to look good? Or will my offsets/size sit pretty flush? I don't want wheel gap but I don't want to rub on every bump
Thanks in advance! Current picture for reference:
Any help?
08-08-2012, 10:59 PM
#8621
Advan RS Wheel 18x9.5 5x120
Wondering about these. newby question about lug spacing. will 120 work? and what is a good reccomended offset. thanks for all the help guys. you guys are life savers for those of us that need to step our wheel knowledge game up!
EDIT: found the same rim with 114.3. but they are only 18x9
Wondering about these. newby question about lug spacing. will 120 work? and what is a good reccomended offset. thanks for all the help guys. you guys are life savers for those of us that need to step our wheel knowledge game up!
EDIT: found the same rim with 114.3. but they are only 18x9
Last edited by Ian Korgel; 08-08-2012 at 11:04 PM.
08-10-2012, 05:13 PM
#8624
you can run 255's or 265's w/a roll n' grinded tabs.
If you're going for stance you'll look retarded with stretched tires on a tucked wheel.
imo, run more rubber - save on the camber n' run it more straight up until you get something more aggressive.