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We use them on our track and street Miatas. More engagement with the stud surface as compared with the stock (miata) stud surface. They go on smoother because they have two pieces with a bearing in between the two parts so that the part that touches the wheel stops turning rather than grinding against the wheel surface...this makes them very easy to torque properly and they don't scratch the wheels.
Just flew back in from the SEMA show two hours ago and the hot deal in lugs this year were forged aluminum lugs....extremely light. Not sure how durable they will turn out to be but they sure feel great in your hands....will have to try some out.
There is nothing "wrong" with them. They are meant to be used with aftermarket wheels that have smaller holes for the lugs than stock. I guess if the lug is seated properly against the rim it should not matter. Regardless, I would only use tuners on wheels that require them.
McGard has them in tuner and cone seat. It says "aftermarket cone seat only" on the site.
After looking at the "tuner description" it doesn't say they can't be used for stock wheels. It seems as though they are made for aftermarket wheels that won't allow a normal socket to fit in custom wheel designs.
I just wanted to get a second opinion. You guys seem to know what's goin on in the world of the "8"
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