RB or Eibach springs?
12-12-2008, 01:55 AM
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RB or Eibach springs?
All you owners out there, should I go with Racing Beat or Eibach springs and why? Which one is stiffer? Which one goes with the stock shocks better? Any problems with the springs? Thanks.
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12-12-2008, 05:08 AM
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That was a little harsh swoope...
but yea seriously they are catering to completely different tastes.
Look into coilovers if you want ride height to be adjustable, otherwise choose what you want.
but yea seriously they are catering to completely different tastes.
Look into coilovers if you want ride height to be adjustable, otherwise choose what you want.
12-12-2008, 10:56 AM
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no spring goes better with the stock shock than the stock spring...anything aftermarket is gonna wear your stock shock faster than stock...RBs drop isnt really that noticable, eibachs look nice (look into the Hey Look LOwering Springs thread) and give a nice drop...you might wanna do a google search, to find out difference in stiffness
12-12-2008, 11:16 AM
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It has already been said, the stock strut is designed to work with the stock spring and the stock struts are going to wear out faster with an aftermarket spring. So be sure to replace the struts when you replace the springs. Unless of course you like doing a job twice.
Me, I went wth the tokico d-spec springs and struts. For the money it is a very good setup. The struts are adjustable so when I am on the street I have them soft and on the track I stiffen them up. As far as the drop, I believe it is about 1.2" which looks good.
If I had to do it over, I would have saved up for a good set up coilovers so I could have more adjustablity. But it should be mentioned, when it comes to handeling, a cheep set of coilovers or a poorly adjusted set will handle worse then anything else. So dont get coilovers unless you are willing to spend the money on a good set of and you take the time and have the knowledge to set them up correctly.
If all you want is the slammed look, well get the cheepest set of coilovers that have the biggest range of height adjustment.
Me, I went wth the tokico d-spec springs and struts. For the money it is a very good setup. The struts are adjustable so when I am on the street I have them soft and on the track I stiffen them up. As far as the drop, I believe it is about 1.2" which looks good.
If I had to do it over, I would have saved up for a good set up coilovers so I could have more adjustablity. But it should be mentioned, when it comes to handeling, a cheep set of coilovers or a poorly adjusted set will handle worse then anything else. So dont get coilovers unless you are willing to spend the money on a good set of and you take the time and have the knowledge to set them up correctly.
If all you want is the slammed look, well get the cheepest set of coilovers that have the biggest range of height adjustment.
12-12-2008, 11:20 AM
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My tokico D-Spec struts/spring set up feels no stiffer then stock until I go to the track and stiffen up the struts. Most aftermarket lowering springs have a progressive rate so for the first few MM of compression the spring rate is near stock but when you are in a turn and the springs get realy compressed the get much stiffer then stock but you will never notice it.
12-12-2008, 11:22 AM
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lol swoope..you are hilarious really..you don't offend me at all..you crack me up! anyways, i wanted the megan coilovers but my thread was closed Top..so springs would be the cheapest route at the moment..i guess RB might do..
12-12-2008, 11:51 AM
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Swoope: you are smart like tuna!
volcom: that's a huge difference, going from Coilovers to springs. What do you want to do? looks? performance? how much do you want to spend?
I would imagine the thread was closed because it was an unapproved Group Buy.
volcom: that's a huge difference, going from Coilovers to springs. What do you want to do? looks? performance? how much do you want to spend?
I would imagine the thread was closed because it was an unapproved Group Buy.
12-12-2008, 12:13 PM
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Eibachs will work with stock shocks. You'll need to trim down your bump stops a little though. If you do high-speed stuff, the stockers will be way too soft over "yumps". You'll really feel it moving on the suspension. I tried this for a while before settling on Tokico D-Specs and Eibachs.
BTW-coil-overs are a real pain on the rear of an RX-8. Most all coil-overs are too stiff and when combined with low-sidewall tires, the ride gets choppy and the traction goes to crap. FYI.
BTW-coil-overs are a real pain on the rear of an RX-8. Most all coil-overs are too stiff and when combined with low-sidewall tires, the ride gets choppy and the traction goes to crap. FYI.
12-12-2008, 04:58 PM
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i am hoping you have found the lowering springs thread.
i found that the eibachs were to low in the rear for track.. i raised them up 3/8". perfect now. i am also running the dspecs.
but really you need to figure out what you want to do then ask the question. you will get useful help then. except from me! i will continue to poke you in the eye with a piece of pizza.
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12-12-2008, 08:15 PM
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eibachs are cheaper... and even with a lower drop, it doesn't mean it has better performance. nor is it worst by all means.
to be pretty simple on the matter, ALL lowering springs will wear down on struts, stock or not. the lower the springs, the less piston travel you have in the shocks, and the more pressure for wear in the small area that it moves due to the higher pressure.
suspension is a fine art... and its really hard to get asked the question "what are you looking for?" w/o being offended. so...
-if your purchase is with an performance aspect in mind, then go with the RB... and just live with the way it looks. or put on a set of small wheels when time comes to play. (also keep in mind that the stock shocks are actually really good and are capable of the task)
-if your purchase is also based on appearance/ budget and performance is last... then go with eibach lowering springs. they will fill the wheel gap nicely, and also asks for alignment money after the install.
of course the decision can be broadened, but with the info i have from above...
i'd say just bite the bullet and pick one!
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12-12-2008, 08:27 PM
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o, btw,
there are also many other choices if you leave yourself flexable +/- $30-60???
you have spring rates like you asked...
you have lowering rate... also like you've asked
and there are also linear rate springs ( you didn't ask)
and there are progressive wound rate springs ( you also didn't ask)
am i missing something???
oh yea, and there are of course... weight and material used.
and yes, they are all different in feel and performance/characteristics/quality
there are also many other choices if you leave yourself flexable +/- $30-60???
you have spring rates like you asked...
you have lowering rate... also like you've asked
and there are also linear rate springs ( you didn't ask)
and there are progressive wound rate springs ( you also didn't ask)
am i missing something???
oh yea, and there are of course... weight and material used.
and yes, they are all different in feel and performance/characteristics/quality
12-12-2008, 10:05 PM
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PM'd ya.
hey, are you on 19s?
be careful not to lower too much, and watch wheel-fender clearance.
by the looks of your sig, you may just want to opt for the "less" lowering performance springs as with big wheels there is less of a wheel gap to fill.
but there is no certain answer if you have multi sets of wheels with different dimensions...
hey, are you on 19s?
be careful not to lower too much, and watch wheel-fender clearance.
by the looks of your sig, you may just want to opt for the "less" lowering performance springs as with big wheels there is less of a wheel gap to fill.
but there is no certain answer if you have multi sets of wheels with different dimensions...
