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Old 05-31-2011, 11:53 AM
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Won't start, No sound when ignition turned on, Battery still good

Hi, a few days ago I entered my 2004 6speed Manual RX8 into a Car show. My RX8 has the following modifications currently:
- NEW AEM CAI
- NEW GReddy Pulleys
- NEW Koyo Performance Radiator
- NEW ACT HDSS Performance Clutch
- NEW ACT Prolite Performance Flywheel
- NEW MazdaManiac Cobb Accessport
- NEW Pioneer AVH-P4200DVD with Metra 95-7510HG Double DIN Installation Dash Kit
- NEW Sparkplugs, NEW Ignition Coils, NEW Battery, NEW Waterpumps, NEW Watercoolant Tank, NEW Belts

* I already have a P0610 ECU problem thats causing me to have heavy idle-hunts and I must continously rev my engine to keep the engine from stalling.

* I have had an AC problem most likely cuz of the new module with Metra that replaced the stock radio.

* I bought the RX8 third-hand hoping to tune it up and replace everything anyways.

Anyways back to the story: At the carshow, the other cars were revving their engines, so I started to rev my engine to redline. My engine was the loudest because of the CAI. At the end I won the carshow and we had to move our cars out, and when I was driving my car out, my tachometer and fuel gauge and all my other gauges had dropped to 0 as if my car's engine was off. However, my engine was still working and I was able to drive and rev it still. Panicking, I pulled over to the side and turned off my engine, then tried to turn it back on. When I turned the key over to turn on the ignition, there was no crank sound at all. In addition, when I put my key in, the Key Alarm light keeps on flashing very fast, and the tire monitor flashes a bit also. Also my Access port can no longer connect to my car via OBDII. However my radio and all my lights still work.

Can anyone tell me whats wrong? And what do I need to do to fix it? My car is currently in a Mazda Specialist but they are having trouble diagnosing also. Its been 3 days in there and still nothing.

Is it the PCM cuz of the current P0610? Is it the starter/crank? Why isn't my car starting?
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Warranty on PCM is 8 year 100k miles. How many you got? Probably getting close on the 8 years!

I did a quick search(you should do the same) and it seemed to indicate that most were getting the PCM replaced, although I did see where someone just got it reflashed and it took. Use advanced search from the pulldown above, and then on the left, type in p0601

Guess seeing the Cobb on there, not sure if you should unmarrry this from the car and then start from there?????? Just not sure.



DTC P0610

PCM vehicle options error

DETECTION CONDITION
• PCM data configuration error.
Diagnostic support note

• This is a continuous monitor (CCM).
• The MIL illuminates if the PCM detects the above malfunction condition in the first drive cycle.
• PENDING CODE is available if the PCM detects the above malfunction condition.
• FREEZE FRAME DATA is available.
• The DTC is stored in the PCM memory.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
• Configulation procedure has not been completed
• PCM malfunction


Diagnostic procedure


STEP

INSPECTION

ACTION

1 VERIFY FREEZE FRAME DATA HAS BEEN RECORDED

• Has FREEZE FRAME DATA been recorded? Yes Go to the next step.
No Record the FREEZE FRAME DATA on the repair order, then go to the next step.
2 VERIFY RELATED REPAIR INFORMATION AVAILABILITY

• Verify related service repair information availability.
• Is any related repair information available? Yes Perform repair or diagnosis according to the available repair information.
• If the vehicle is not repaired, go to the next step.
No Perform the "PCM CONFIGURATION", then go to the next step.
(See PCM CONFIGURATION.)
3 VERIFY TROUBLESHOOTING OF DTC P0610 COMPLETED

• Make sure to reconnect all disconnected connectors.
• Clear the DTC from the PCM memory using the WDS or equivalent.
• Start the engine.
• Is the same DTC present? Yes Replace the PCM, then go to the next step.
(See PCM REMOVAL/INSTALLATION.)
No Go to the next step.
4 VERIFY AFTER REPAIR PROCEDURE

• Perform the "AFTER REPAIR PROCEDURE".
(See AFTER REPAIR PROCEDURE.)
• Are any DTCs present? Yes Go to the applicable DTC inspection.
(See DTC TABLE.)
No DTC troubleshooting completed.

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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Warranty on PCM is 8 year 100k miles. How many you got? Probably getting close on the 8 years!

I did a quick search(you should do the same) and it seemed to indicate that most were getting the PCM replaced, although I did see where someone just got it reflashed and it took. Use advanced search from the pulldown above, and then on the left, type in p0601

Guess seeing the Cobb on there, not sure if you should unmarrry this from the car and then start from there?????? Just not sure.



DTC P0610

PCM vehicle options error

DETECTION CONDITION
• PCM data configuration error.
Diagnostic support note

• This is a continuous monitor (CCM).
• The MIL illuminates if the PCM detects the above malfunction condition in the first drive cycle.
• PENDING CODE is available if the PCM detects the above malfunction condition.
• FREEZE FRAME DATA is available.
• The DTC is stored in the PCM memory.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
• Configulation procedure has not been completed
• PCM malfunction


Diagnostic procedure


STEP

INSPECTION

ACTION

1 VERIFY FREEZE FRAME DATA HAS BEEN RECORDED

• Has FREEZE FRAME DATA been recorded? Yes Go to the next step.
No Record the FREEZE FRAME DATA on the repair order, then go to the next step.
2 VERIFY RELATED REPAIR INFORMATION AVAILABILITY

• Verify related service repair information availability.
• Is any related repair information available? Yes Perform repair or diagnosis according to the available repair information.
• If the vehicle is not repaired, go to the next step.
No Perform the "PCM CONFIGURATION", then go to the next step.
(See PCM CONFIGURATION.)
3 VERIFY TROUBLESHOOTING OF DTC P0610 COMPLETED

• Make sure to reconnect all disconnected connectors.
• Clear the DTC from the PCM memory using the WDS or equivalent.
• Start the engine.
• Is the same DTC present? Yes Replace the PCM, then go to the next step.
(See PCM REMOVAL/INSTALLATION.)
No Go to the next step.
4 VERIFY AFTER REPAIR PROCEDURE

• Perform the "AFTER REPAIR PROCEDURE".
(See AFTER REPAIR PROCEDURE.)
• Are any DTCs present? Yes Go to the applicable DTC inspection.
(See DTC TABLE.)
No DTC troubleshooting completed.
Hi Mazufer thank you for your response. I just called my local Mazda dealership and asked them about my warranty. They said that the 8-year 100,000 miles extended warranty only covers the basic engine parts such as the rotar itself. However, the PCM is not covered under the warranty, only the Basic Warranty which was 6-year 50,000 miles covers the PCM

I actually unbinded my Accessport a few days (2-3 days) before this incident happened because I was getting a P0000 code with the Accessport. I've tried searching the forums for a situation like mines regarding the P0610, but none had idle hunts like mine.
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