zoom44

awhile ago there was an issue with some cars having the pressure plate bolts back out. the problem stemmed from incorrect torque applied at the factory. could all of this be more of the same problem?

zoom44

some older posts for reference

first pressure plate bolt problem report
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ate#post528971


note abbid's comment 4th down in this thread https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

eclpso had a previous problem
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...pressure+plate

Ft Liquordale

here's where I am at...

They told me my clutch was fried first of all...wtf!?! The clutch was fine and no slips. $420!

They are replacing the entire tranny under waranty. Which is nice I guess...5 days to get the part shipped and in.

I asked them if they'd waranty a mazda speed flywheel install. He said he'd get back with me.

I will have a better description on the tranny when I go to check out the clutch later today. I have no clue how it'd be fried. Anyone have a clue?

Slims8

Clutches... I've heard of them burning, recently "exploding", but not frying without any symptoms of slipping. That is the EXACT thing that happened to me the first time though. EXACTLY what you described up top. They didn't mention the clutch that time, but rebuilt the transmission. Blah, Blah, Blah, the story goes on and now my clutch is "exploded". I would like to see what is wrong with your clutch or if they just found something they could make a little money off of. Please fill me in!

bigblockbeater

interesting, my clutch never showed signs of getting worse it just went. i wonder if perhaps if it did explode.

Ft Liquordale

I spoke to Mazda USA today. They logged my whole story! Tomorrow I'm going in to check the clutch out...to see what is meant by fried. What really threw alarms off for me is that they told me the clutch was worn out (and the service rep told me I broke the car) even before they knew what was wrong with the Transmission. Thanx for all the responces, I now know what to look for.

bigblockbeater

i sent an email through mazdausa.com explaining my situation. maybe with enough complaints they will address the problems with the clutch and tranny. good luck Ft. Liquordale.

poomaster5

Has anyone had 2nd gear grind when shifting from above 8500 rpm?? My car does:-(.

I bout my 8 4 weeks ago and it has 1300 miles on it. I took it to the dealer last week and the sales guy said "you shouldnt be reving it that much until you hit 5000 miles". The guy in the garage told me to make sure I have the clutch pushed all the way down and I am not shifting sideways. I have played around for a week with their suggestions, but my 2nd gear still grinds when shifting above 8500 rpm. I plan on taking it to the dealership after the holiays.

What should I tell them to look at other than the tranny or the clutch? Flyweel maybe?? Any other suggestions, experiences???

Thank you everyone for your suggestions!!!

tiggerlee

I believe I've read about it here before. did you try doing a search for "2nd gear grinding".

poomaster5

I have looked at other posts but with my car it is ONLY grinding in 2nd gear. Others are grinding when shifting into 6th gear as well. I have payed closer attention to my shifting after reading several posts. Maybe it is just starting to get loose??????

poomaster5

Well, Its only shiftin over 8500 rpm when my whife is driving. Other than that I am not experiencing any other weird things. I have seen videos of the 8 and they shift between 1st and 2nd above 9500k just fine. The clutch is easy to push down...no other gear problems. The car has been great, xcept between 1st & 2nd above 8500 rpm. Should I be more patient with the car or is something wrong????

poomaster5

No it is not under full throttle. I have to wait until 7500 (tested) and it willl not grind. I do not see why it would grind even if I was at 9000 rpm. I owned a Mitsu GS-T and it never acted like this even when near the max rpm

poomaster5

Whenever the rpm is under 8500 it does not grind. Anything over it grinds, then I have to force it into gear. I Havent done this many times.....just trying it out at different rpms....it shifts fine at anything less than 8500. I dont abuse my NEW SHINY *...Its awesome.

red_rx8_red_int

I hope not. I shift at the beep when I'm having fun. Hitting the rev limiter is a missed shift, if it voids the warranty, then they shouldn't have it. IMHO.

poomaster5

I am watching http://www.mymazdarotary.com/rx-8_vi...ime-attack.avi and My car is not shifting the same. He is shifting above 9500 rpm.. Why make the car able to go that high if you can not shift & handle the high RPMs????

poomaster5

Should I tell the dealership to figure out whats going on or does anyone else think this is a "normal" process of breaking the car in? I would like to know what I am up against and what to ask when at the dealership.

Slims8

Don't assume it's normal or you'll end up in the same situation as me. But, you shouldn't be shifting above 8500RPM on a regular basis. Take it to the dealer and let them check it out.

Slims8

Well, I have sent them 2 or 3 emails and called numerous times with my story. Usually through email I get the response: "Blah, Blah, Blah... We're really sorry you are having these difficulties and hope the get resolved soon"

good luck... Let me know what happens or if you need anything from me.

Slims8

Yep, I was shifting mine under 5,000 RPM's both times mine went out, and they voided my warranty the last time for "Severe Abuse... Side stepping or racing"

It's all about money.

eclps0

yes i am so fricken happy........ Mazda is dropping my tranny right now. hopefully they give me a new one, or they will fix my problem.

Slims8

You have got to be kidding! WTF is their deal with me?!?!

Oh well... I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully they will either replace it or you have good mechanics repairing the vehicle.

Slims8

Yeah they are! My car has been broke down since October 12th and they refuse to fix it. It's been a mess.

My whole story

Slims8

done, done, done, done, done, done, and there are a lot of dealerships. The last time it had 200 miles on a brand new clutch and it went out. ABSOLUTELY not abuse. MNAO doesn't care and will not even speak to me. I have a court date for the Lemon Law on the 13th of January. I wish they would just fix the damn thing! Jan 13th will mark 3 months plus the 40 days the first time it was in the shop!

kmg1186

I was parked with the car off on a slight hill yesterday. Not too steep, but steep enough to get the car rolling noticeably fast. I always engage the parking brake when stopping on a hill however its now getting very cold here in north jersey. people have told me my parking brake can actually freeze to the wheels if left engaged in extreme cold, so i went to see if i could park the car on the hill only in first gear without the parking brake engaged.

when i did this however, the car would begin to roll, and would almost come to a stop when i felt the gear was starting to catch, but then would "slip" and continue to roll until it began to catch again. then the roll started once again. so clearly my first gear will not be holding my car on any sort of hill and im gunna have to be risking that my parking brake is gunna freeze in the cold.

is this the same for you guys?

Slims8

Yeah, it would make sense. That would be how you would "pop start" a car. What you are actually doing is turning the motor.