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Old 01-31-2010, 03:49 AM
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Awesome news tksnobords... glad it worked out for you.
I did the same thing once with a stubborn valve when it wouldn't come out.
I worked it in and out while spraying carb cleaner onto the valve.
Just verify you don't have any coolant leaks and you should be all good
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i will be checking tomorrow. anywhere i should pay extra attention to besides the thermostat? i'm gonna lay some cardboard down after i drive it to see if anything is leaking.
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The thermostat is pretty much the only place to worry about leaks.
Either where it mounts to the engine or the hoses connecting to it.
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great thanks again for all your input. it really made the difference.
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IL Could someone help me?

I need a new shutter valve. I think I have somebody to put it in, but where do I find such a thing? And then how do I get this carbon out that you guys are talking about? I got that p2070 code too. This car hates me and the warrenty is now up- I'm not rich and some input would be greatly appreciated!
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Bethany1006- The valve can be ordered from OnlineMazdaParts.com for $232.52:
SSV stuck open.....code P2070.-ssv.jpg
But you might be better off posting in the Buy/Sell section of this forum and try to get one used.

Now... before you go through all this trouble, PLEASE verify the valve is actually stuck.
I've already posted a link on how to check that:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-troubleshoot-intake-valves-174009/

Then if the valves moves smoothly and the actuator works, check the SSV solenoid:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-test-solenoid-190364/

If the solenoid tests OK, its probably just the impact switch that tells the PCM if the valve is open or close.
And in that case its no big deal since the valve will still operate as it should.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Bethany1006- The valve can be ordered from OnlineMazdaParts.com for $232.52:
Attachment 151799
But you might be better off posting in the Buy/Sell section of this forum and try to get one used.

Now... before you go through all this trouble, PLEASE verify the valve is actually stuck.
I've already posted a link on how to check that:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=174009

Then if the valves moves smoothly and the actuator works, check the SSV solenoid:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=190364

If the solenoid tests OK, its probably just the impact switch that tells the PCM if the valve is open or close.
And in that case its no big deal since the valve will still operate as it should.
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Thank You so much Jon316G! This will most likely help me out huge! I think I posted something on the buy/sell forum... I'm going to look at figuring out how to make sure it's actually stuck. Check out the link you gave me at least.
Thanks Again!
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Originally Posted by Bethany1006
Thank You so much Jon316G! This will most likely help me out huge! I think I posted something on the buy/sell forum... I'm going to look at figuring out how to make sure it's actually stuck. Check out the link you gave me at least.
Thanks Again!
No problem.
And if the valve is truly stuck and you need to replace it, follow this other DIY I made with a video link:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-remove-ssv-beta-teaser-video-184663/
Then again, if its stuck and you need to remove it to replace it, why not just clean your valve and not bother buying a new/used valve

Let us know what you discover.
Always good to know what the likely source of the P2070 code is.

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Originally Posted by Jon316G
No problem.
And if the valve is truly stuck and you need to replace it, follow this other DIY I made with a video link:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=184663
Then again, if its stuck and you need to remove it to replace it, why not just clean your valve and not bother buying a new/used valve

Let us know what you discover.
Always good to know what the likely source of the P2070 code is.

Ok so my car (04 MT with 77K) just threw this P2070 error code yesterday. I consistently try and redline it once every day that I drive it and always put 92-93 octane gas in it. I called my local dealership and they said it would be around $750 for all parts and labor to fix it per the TSB ( http://www.finishlineperformance.com...9-08-1929a.pdf ). Should I go ahead and have them do it, or should I try and seafoam my car first? I don't have any loss of power at all. I cleared my code and everything has been fine since.
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Originally Posted by jdenman03
Ok so my car (04 MT with 77K) just threw this P2070 error code yesterday. I consistently try and redline it once every day that I drive it and always put 92-93 octane gas in it. I called my local dealership and they said it would be around $750 for all parts and labor to fix it per the TSB ( http://www.finishlineperformance.com...9-08-1929a.pdf ). Should I go ahead and have them do it, or should I try and seafoam my car first? I don't have any loss of power at all. I cleared my code and everything has been fine since.
Please go up to post #56 and follow Jon's advice
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Seafoaming won't do anything for your problem since your valve is in the intake manifold, not the engine.
And as I pointed out in the link you replied to, that code may not be the valve itself... it could also be the solenoid or impact switch.
This is why that thread was created, to help troubleshoot and narrow down the problem.

Now... if you don't feel comfortable doing this yourself or you don't have a fellow RX8 buddy local to you to lend a hand, then maybe its best to let the dealer do it.
Usually a sticking valve or bad solenoid results in hesitations while accelerating, so this may not be something you need to worry about right away.
If the code comes back down the road, then decide what route you should take.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Seafoaming won't do anything for your problem since your valve is in the intake manifold, not the engine.
And as I pointed out in the link you replied to, that code may not be the valve itself... it could also be the solenoid or impact switch.
This is why that thread was created, to help troubleshoot and narrow down the problem.

Now... if you don't feel comfortable doing this yourself or you don't have a fellow RX8 buddy local to you to lend a hand, then maybe its best to let the dealer do it.
Usually a sticking valve or bad solenoid results in hesitations while accelerating, so this may not be something you need to worry about right away.
If the code comes back down the road, then decide what route you should take.
Thanks I was going through some other threads and reading what you posted. Its just now starting to hit the cold temps (around 10F degrees). My car is garaged normally so I don't have to worry about the really cold temps. In the summer/fall everything was fine. I only got this when the temps fell. Temps do affect the SSV correct?

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Originally Posted by DarkBrew
Please go up to post #56 and follow Jon's advice
sorry and jumped the gun before I read over the thread completely.
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Originally Posted by jdenman03
Temps do affect the SSV correct?
Normally I would say that build-up will cause a valve will stick no matter what temps, but I do see more SSV related problems when outside temps are low.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Normally I would say that build-up will cause a valve will stick no matter what temps, but I do see more SSV related problems when outside temps are low.
Yeah I was just wondering if the valve froze up for a minute or something. If it starts to drive funny or the code comes on again, i'll do some more investigation. I do know my air pump is going out, but that shouldn't affect this at all.
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Hey Jon, you posted
Originally Posted by Jon316G
Also... if the dealer quotes you a price to perform this, let me know what it is.
I'm real curious.
And I think its a coincidence that the cat was replaced around the same time.
This issue is more prone to occur with colder outside temps.
on this thread ( https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=p2070 ). Why did you ask about the CAT replacement? I just got mine replace around 300 miles ago also.
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Originally Posted by jdenman03
Why did you ask about the CAT replacement?
I didn't ask about the cat replacement.
If you read the post I replied to in that thread, you'll read that the individual asked if it was a coincidence he was experienced hesitation around 4250rpm after the cat was replaced.
To which I replied that it was.

I applaud you for taking the time to read through the various threads instead of creating another "HEEEELP" thread like many others, but take time to read and understand what we're saying and not jump the gun (again) .
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
I didn't ask about the cat replacement.
If you read the post I replied to in that thread, you'll read that the individual asked if it was a coincidence he was experienced hesitation around 4250rpm after the cat was replaced.
To which I replied that it was.

I applaud you for taking the time to read through the various threads instead of creating another "HEEEELP" thread like many others, but take time to read and understand what we're saying and not jump the gun (again) .
Sorry, late night! lol... If it continues to keep having problems ( I only drive it maybe 50 miles/week), I might take a long drive over a state in the spring to come get some help (that's if you don't mind).
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Where do you live?
Indy. I know you're up there in Northeast Ohio, but its worth the drive! Plus i'll buy whatever beverages you want! lol... Just don't wanna fork out 750 dollars to the stealership if I don't have to (even if I have to pay 300 in gas!
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That's not a bad drive.
I don't mind helping out if this code reappears in the future... just let me know.
Plus... if you take it to the dealer to perform that TSB, it'll suck if the valve was perfectly fine and it was something else (like the solenoid) causing this.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
That's not a bad drive.
I don't mind helping out if this code reappears in the future... just let me know.
Plus... if you take it to the dealer to perform that TSB, it'll suck if the valve was perfectly fine and it was something else (like the solenoid) causing this.
I'll let you know, and thanks. Thanks for staying on top of this whole SSV issue we have with the rx8's too. Great benefit to the 8 club.
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Check engine light: Open Valve

2004 MT, 82,000 Miles.

I too have just discovered this problem. Buying the Seafoam stuff today and hopefully it works... This next question will sound really, really dumb: I want to run the Seafoam through the vacum line but I'm not sure which hose is the actual line to use. If anyone can advise on that I would greatly appreciate the help!!
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Originally Posted by snaclerio
I want to run the Seafoam through the vacum line but I'm not sure which hose is the actual line to use.
None of the vacuum lines will concentrate the fluid directly onto the valve and depending on how stuck the valve is, will be worthless.
With the engine running idle, the fluid will just get sucked through the primary runner and the heavier fluid will just run down the auxiliary runner.
You might get some of it down with secondary runner... but don't expect much.

But if you feel the need to do this anyway... then I would choose the brake booster inlet on the UIM to dispense Seafoam into the intake.

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None of the vacuum lines will concentrate the fluid directly onto the valve and depending on how stuck the valve is, will be worthless.
With the engine running idle, the fluid will just get sucked through the primary runner and the heavier fluid will just run down the auxiliary runner.
You might get some of it down with secondary runner... but don't expect much.

But if you feel the need to do this anyway... then I would choose the brake booster inlet on the UIM to dispense Seafoam into the intake.

Well, I bought the Deep Creep and sprayed a good amount through the the throttle body. I felt a difference this morning while driving but not sure if I was able dislodge the valve. Should I continue to spray the Deep Creep or is there a better step that should be taken?

Thanks,
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