silent8

well i'm sad to sry i haven't driven my 8 for about a month and then i started it about a week ago and drove it around the block, but now i can't get it started and i tried the deflooding with the washer fluid but didn't work, then i need to get a new battery, and today i tried to clutch kick it to start it and it still doesn't work... and also wen i try start it, it sounds normal but just don't kick that last little bit over...and i also changed my coils, plugs and wires about 3 months ago and just cleaned them again because of this problem...

DeViLbOi

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What happened with the rolling start?

Vyndictive

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. . . are you sure its not flooded? Does it sputter at all, RMPs jump a little or anything? Awful stank of gas where you're working?

If you've pulled the plugs, could try some starting fluid to see if its fuel or spark...

silent8

with the rolling start it like stutters then doesn't go...

silent8

i've been using chevron gas and it's always worked for me...the gas gauge says i have 1/4 tank left so i'm assuming it's still all good... but i'll try that fluid starter u said

Detrich

if i don't start my 8 within 2 weeks the battery gets weak. even worse in cold weather...

silent8

ok so i disconnected the spark plugs for a little over a day to c if that'd help and i just tried starting it up again and no change...anything else i can try to get my 8 going?

Jon316G

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Why did you disconnect the spark plugs?
I can see if you REMOVED the spark plugs to clean/dry them, then cranked a few times with the plugs out to remove the fluids.
But just disconnecting them won't do anything useful.

Mazurfer

Jon..............this is the same person that has the thread about a hose not being connected behind the oil filter.
I'm wondering now if he doesn't have a bad vacuum leak.

OP...............if it's flooded, then you need to pull the plugs. Do some searching and you find a lot of threads that will give you ideas on how to de-flood.

silent8

ya i pulled the plugs out for a little over a day for that reason and still never worked...i also tried deflooding before still didn't work

Razz1

weak battery.

silent8

after i tried deflooding i went to napa and got a new battery so i think it should still be good

Ryoma-kun

Give an update whether it works out or not.

silent8

just tried the mazda way of doing the deflooding and after about 20 cranks still fuel coming out...i did the 20 or so in about 30 mins but just wondering wat i should do now??? right now i'm using the batt i got from napa but i also just brought the red top 75/35

Mazurfer

The one experience I had with that other persons car, we pulled the fuel relay and we held the gas to the floor while we cranked it without the plugs in there until we saw no smoke and no dripping. When you put the plugs back in make sure they are dry!!!!!! When we did finally try to crank it after putting the plugs back in, when still had the fuel relay out and didn't touch the throttle, once it started we slapped the fuel relay in real quick. It's a two man operation.


That's all I can suggest, or you'll have to move on to the washer fluid trick.

Good luck!

Jon316G

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He mentioned already trying that... but I've noticed some people put too much in and still have issues starting.
Remember, all you need to do it put a couple mist sprays into the maintenance ports (without cranking).

I had a local try using too much washer fluid and couldn't get it running.
I came over and did just a couple mist sprays and it worked just fine.
It just takes getting used to the technique.

Mazurfer

Oh.......guess I mist(pun intended) that.

silent8

i was wondering if i should buy new plugs? they've only been running for about 5 months tho?

Mazurfer

Hard to say, but you must have them dry......that I do know. We had compressed air available to help.

Oh......and don't ask me why, but we had to have both the fuel relay out and the throttle to the floor to really cut all the gas..........no sure why, but sure seemed like it. Once we did both, it cleared out in about three attempts of 10 seconds or so. That's all I know.

silent8

kk... i'll try that too, and i got a compressor that i'll dry them off with too

Jon316G

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Good one!

Its "recommended" that you do, but I've also done without replacing them.
Just make sure they are dry as Mazurfer mentioned and you can clean it with a wire brush too.

GaMEChld

Pull start it. If that fails, I think you've got something else wrong rather than a flood. That's pretty much gauranteed to start a flooded engine. I wouldn't be so confident with a push start or rolling start, those can be too little to get the job done, not enough total momentum.

Go for a gentle pull start. Get it to 15-20 mph, let the clutch out slowly in 2nd or 3rd, give it a bit of gas as the revs come up, it should fire up. Just dont plow yourself into whoever is pulling you.

StealthTL

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Best way to 'dry' plugs is to burn the oil off with a little propane torch. Heat 'em til they smoke.

Turn the engine over at least ten seconds without the plugs in, to clear fuel/oil/washer snot, then put the plugs back in, and before you crank, it doesn't hurt to shoot a good shot of ether (starting fluid) on to the air filter.....NOW your ready to give it a start.

If that don't work, I have seen a tow start work when ALL else has failed, just hook up a rope to the front eyebolt and tow it at fifteen mph until it starts, may take a mile, but it is the guaranteed fix.....

Good luck,

S

Mazurfer

He knows about the pull start, we just wanted to try other things before resorting to that.
But..........if it will start it, then he may have to do so.

Jon316G

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Good tip Stealth