dal290la

Help, The 8 has been sitting for a month.....
On a cold night I moved the car into the garage without warming it up. Next morning,,,no start. I figured it was flooded and read a bit on this site as to what to do.
The car is a 2005 with 40K miles and is OUT of warranty. I can not afford to take it to the dealer now.

I have replaced the plugs with the proper NGK in the correct placement and I replaced the battery. The car will not start. Please provide suggestions. I have nedium mechanical ability and can slowly figure most explained things out.
I really need to get this thing running. I did not turn the engine over with the plugs out, somebody please help.

@!!narotordo

A local member flooded his 8 when his battery went out. He replaced the battery and starter. His 8 would still not turn over. Turns out he needed new spark plugs and coils. The dealer charged him $400.

Let me ask you this; what happens when you try to start the car? ie: turn the key?
Does it crank but not turn over?
If it cranks keep cranking it and count to 5. Stop let the starter cool and repeat till she fires up.
You said you put new plugs in, How old are the coils? ie: how many miles?

dal290la

Thanks for your reply. Earlier in the day one of the memebers;Patrick allowed me to call him and he walked me through it.

1. I placed a charger on the new battery.
2. I removed the fuse to the fuel pump.
3. I removed the driver side wheel and loosened the access flap in the wheel well.
4. I removed the lower plug, one at a time and turned the engine over for 10 seconds three times in a row, waiting about 30 seconds in between. While cranking I held the gas pedal to the floor.
5. I had already replaced the plugs so I just cleaned off the excess fuel.
6. I replaced the fuel pump fuse and tried to start it, It did not start but was very close. I cranked on it for about 30 seconds and then quit.
7. I went back through the process but this time prior to trying to start, I pumped a bit of starting fluid into the intake. Their are 2 **** covered by a small rubber cap on the intake on the passenger side of the car. I removed the small cap and placed a 12" vacuum hose on the tit an shot a fair amount into the intake. Replace the small cap before retrying.

Success: the car spit and sputter and billowed white smoke for 5 minutes. I drove it around the block and it was running smooth and strong. This is my 2nd day and the car has started 4 seperate times.

THANK YOU PATRICK for your availabilty and your willingness to walk me through the process and then answer my many questions. You saved me a bunch of money at a time when I am unemployed. You have no idea how much that helped me.

I hope this detail helps someone else.

toptech

My son just did the same thing, started his cold, pulled it in the garage and shut it off. It hasn't started since. I have tried the deflooding proceedure multiple times and used starting fuid. This thing won't even think about starting. I am going to put new plugs in on Saturday and use the proceedure that you used. (leave the two lower plugs out and crank it over to help dry it out). Hopefully this will do the trick. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

dal290la

The only other advice I can add is to make sure you have a strong battery and keep a charger on it while you are doing the spark plug removal procedure and get new plugs if they have any miles on them. You may have to go thru the procedure more than once but add the ether right before starting and make sure you replug the intake or the engine will run rough if it starts. GOOD LUCK!

I almost forgot do one plug at a time. Once you remove one of the lower plugs, turn the engine over for 10 seconds and then wait about 30 seconds. Do this 3 times. Then put that plug in and remove the other plug and duplicate the procedure.

toptech

OK, I found the Mazda TSB and it instructs you to remove all spark plugs, unplug crank sensor (no way I could get to that connector, I could barely see it. So it didn't get unplugged) and air pump connector. Cranked engine over multiple times to clear out fuel. Installed new plugs, hit the key (with the air pump still unplugged) and the damn thing started and ran for about two seconds. So I went back to the deflooding procedure (without removing the spark plugs). Still won't start. Now i thought I would try something different. I cranked it over (deflooding procedure) six to eight times for about ten seconds, taking a fifteen second break in between to cool the starter. Then while cranking it with the gas pedal to the floor, I had my son spray starting fluid into the air intake tube (removed the square baffle looking thingy on the side of the air tube), see fired right up. Now I just have to change the oil, because it has a strong fuel smell. Thanks for the help. I hope this helps someone else out. Obviously, the best thing to do is make shore you don't shut one off cold, or stall it out when it's cold. One other thing; I want to clean the engine. There is no Mazda dealer near me. Does anyone know if Advance Auto Parts carries a cleaner that is the same as the Mazda combustion chamber cleaner?