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Old 02-03-2009, 04:24 PM   #1
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Angry engine cranks, but wont start...

hey guys...im hoping you guys could give some advice on probable causes. one night i parked my car and the next morning it didnt start!. i checked the battery and it tested out bad, so i replaced it! then my starter wouldnt disengage so i replaced the starter also.... still no start. i've checked fuses and relays. i even tried push starting my car, NOTHING. my car is cranking over but it aint starting. i have had my ignition system replaced already at the dealer about a year ago. i dont know what to look for... i 've done pretty much everything i can think of....if you guys can help me with this, i would appreciate it. thanks!
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:07 PM   #2
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Was the engine fully warmed up when you parked the car and shut it down? If the engine was not fully warmed up, it may be flooded. Never shut down a rotary engine without warming it up. Check your user manual for instructions on de-flooding the car. Or check out the DIY section of this forum for other techniques used by members to de-flood the engine. Otherwise if the car is still under warranty, you may want to have Mazda check it out.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:09 PM   #3
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:23 PM   #4
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if its flooded, thats one hell of some flooding that happen...i've cranked it over and over...ive spent a week and a half trying to get it working! im clueless..
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:31 PM   #5
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Then I assume you've been through these already to verify the engine isn't flooded?
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...5-08-1883f.pdf
DIY: De-Flood procedure - more flooding for this guy!!!
DIY: Deflooding in under 5 mins

Usually one of these will get it going, unless there is something else wrong.
Have you check to make sure the spark plug wire boots didn't come loose?
How about disconnecting/reconnecting the ESS?
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Take out and clean/dry the plugs.

While they are out, crank the engine with the pedal to the floor, for twenty seconds or so.

Re-install plugs and connect the right coil to each plug (from front coil - FL, FT, RL, RT)

After a good battery charge, try to start......

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Re-install plugs and connect the right coil to each plug (from front coil - FL, FT, RL, RT)
Another good idea! Verify the coils are connected to the correct plugs.
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unlikely here... but if it is not flooded or spark related... squirt some starting fluid into the little guy and see if it sputters or gets anything... just to see if its fuel delivery.
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hey same thing happen to me
if engine flooded you need
connect the battery to another car
take out the fuel pump fuse
crank the engine untill you feel the compression again.
replace the fuel pump fuse
crank it again untill engine start.
keep some pauses between cranks to save the starter motor
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:59 PM   #10
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Unhappy Cranks, won't Start. HELP!!!

hey guys... My car has been acting up lately. About 3 weeks ago, I took off the muffler and then drove it like that till recently. Was driving to the store and at a stop light, the car just stalled then won't start. Then it will only start when cold but stalls when warm. 2 days ago, I started it again and it started but got a P0301 check engine code (flashing) and when i depressed the clutch, it just stalled. Put the muffler back on and now it won't start but cranks. I assume the spark plugs are flooded. Went to advance and they told me that I have to balance the engine to put new spark plugs on but I looked on all data and it doesn't say so. Anyways, I checked voltage on coils, getting proper voltage there. Getting proper voltage at the eccentric shaft position sensor. Not getting spark. What could cause this?
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:25 AM   #11
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balance the engine before putting spark plugs in? talk about full of ****!

are u sure u not gettinf spark? u need can find out with a 6 -7 bucks tool,
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thanks for the reply. haha he also mentioned that he worked at mazda before. I tried several spark tests and it seemed like i was not getting spark. Im changing spark plugs today and prob doing a compression test. This all happened 2 weeks after I took my muffler off. Maybe when it was off, it was reading a lot of oxygen so it was dumping fuel then making it stall. That is my belief. I put the muffler back on and reset the ECM by pressing the gas pedal 20x.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:57 PM   #13
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you mean the brake pedal...
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engine wont crank

Hi all, sorry not able to start a new thread so I am hijacking one....Essentially, hoping someone can help, Ive scoured the forum and internet for answers..... before I get flamed.


-I moved my 2007 rx8 6spd about 20ft to park it and turned it off in hot weather.
-2 days later went to unlock with my cardkey and it didnt work, used the secondary physical key and opened the door. (the light on the card does flash though).
-tried to turn the ignition with no luck, had to use the physical key. turned the ignition again. all interior lights turn on, windows work full speed, engine does not crank at all(no audible tic-tic sound).
-tried the 10 second pedal to floor deflooding with no luck.
-tried jumping with a car with a weak-ish batterry- no luck.
-fyi: coils,plugs,wires all almost new.

Im guessing:

Starter (is it possible that the key coincidentally doenst work at the same time?)
Flooded engine (but engine does not crank or even try to crank- also key coincidence again?)
clutch pedal not fully engaging (again - coincidence that key doenst work)
key battery (but car wont start even with physical key).
fuse of some kind?
battery (but it wouldnt jump start)
battery terminals (lights all turn on at 100%)

any help would....help.

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rx8dem.........................My guess and it's a pure guess..................clutch interlock switch. Coincidence that the card key battery went at the same time.

If it doesn't even attempt to crank, then it ain't flooded.

When you say it wouldn't jump start................I assume it didn't even try to crank at this time either.......correct?
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No cranking at all. Tried moving around terminals.. Nothing.

Will check clutch. Just thinking its a major coincidence with the key.

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does your car "click" when you turn the key to on ?

or should I say, does your security link keeps blinking when you tried to start the car ?

if it does not blink like 3 times a second, the system accepted ur key, nothing wrong with electrical side.

try to take a piece of metal and knock on on ur starter lightly (tap it couple of times) while trying to crank the car (have a helper do it)

try it then u come back to us. cuz it sounds like ur starter is dead.
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I was about to give up, then figured I would change the key card battery and give it a try....... it started

How is it possible that Mazda would hinge the operation of the car on a frikken remote battery..

Thanks to everyone.;
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hey guys dont want to muck up the post but didn't know where to post as I'm new to this forum, i have a 2004 rx8 that i have recently bought, the previous owner told me that the engine dosnt start but it turns over. when i brought it back i managed to start it up by de-flooding it once i got it starting i went to put my foot on the clutch and it just died, mind you that it was revving normally.
any suggestions to what it might be?
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low compression or vacuum leak somwhere.
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