Major loss of power, gargling exhaust, smoke, immense vibrating and hard start?
09-07-2012, 04:12 AM
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Major loss of power, gargling exhaust, smoke, immense vibrating and hard start?
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I'm experiencing a major loss of power more so in the first half of the rev band until 5k with no acceleration in any gears with the taller gears having major trouble to accelerate at all when cruising. Instead when this is happening with the accelerator pressed, a real groaning gargling sound is emmited from the exhaust with a crisp sound only in the top half of the rev range where any power is achieved. The whole car vibrates when this is happening and large amounts of smoke erupts out of my exhausts when redlining majority of the time. The plugs were just changed now, aswell as coils and leads less than 10k ago. I thought it would be one of these things as the car now finds it hard to start. I just got a compression test also and it came out fine...DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS LEFT?!?! BECAUSE ITS UNDRIVABLE!
I'm experiencing a major loss of power more so in the first half of the rev band until 5k with no acceleration in any gears with the taller gears having major trouble to accelerate at all when cruising. Instead when this is happening with the accelerator pressed, a real groaning gargling sound is emmited from the exhaust with a crisp sound only in the top half of the rev range where any power is achieved. The whole car vibrates when this is happening and large amounts of smoke erupts out of my exhausts when redlining majority of the time. The plugs were just changed now, aswell as coils and leads less than 10k ago. I thought it would be one of these things as the car now finds it hard to start. I just got a compression test also and it came out fine...DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS LEFT?!?! BECAUSE ITS UNDRIVABLE!
09-07-2012, 06:57 PM
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Okay sorry I should have noted this earlier. I have no cat, just an AP midpipe with a BHR resonator on replacing one of the resonators. And the plugs were replaced with the coils 10k ago but they already failed!! so needed replacing again. The cost me $400 NGK ones. There was oil on them the guy showed me.
09-08-2012, 04:22 AM
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lol yeah I know when he told me the price I was gobsmacked...looked on last invoice for a different mechanic same plugs cost $60 each, which leaves the total to $240 for plugs, this guy charged $90 for labour and the remaining $70 for the compression test...I think I got done hard. But the plugs didn't fix the problem AT ALL! the cars still hard starting at least 4-5 seconds to tick over and no power at all in any gear...its using SO MUCH FUEL as I need to rev the **** out of it all the time to move anywhere...he showed me the plugs and they were covered in browny oil. A panel beater did flood the engine a couple months back but it was all fine once I got it going until now...
09-08-2012, 04:42 AM
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Because apparently the results they gave you mean nothing. 89 what? at what rpm?
You have smoke and smoke is never good.
Find another shop to have the engine looked at.
You have smoke and smoke is never good.
Find another shop to have the engine looked at.
09-08-2012, 04:45 AM
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Because you can have ok compression and have a f&*cked engine.
As bse said, rebuild it.
You come on here asking advice, we give it you, then you question us because you think you know better.
As bse said, rebuild it.
You come on here asking advice, we give it you, then you question us because you think you know better.
09-08-2012, 04:45 AM
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it was 89-89-90 at I can;t exactly picture the sheet he was showing me but I think it was about 230rpm or something similar and the second rotor was only 2rpm off the first. The smoke has subceeded now even upon redlining so I think I blasted all the built up carbon out. Just left with the major problem of no power with vibrations and a hard start...
09-08-2012, 04:49 AM
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89-89-90 WHAT? Compression test measures pressure. Are we talking about kpa, psi, kilofarts or what?
Oil on the plugs is never a good sign.
Did you install the coils and wires properly? do they all work fine?
Do another compression test at a place where they are competent enough to print the results and come back here.
Oil on the plugs is never a good sign.
Did you install the coils and wires properly? do they all work fine?
Do another compression test at a place where they are competent enough to print the results and come back here.
09-08-2012, 04:53 AM
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89-89-90 psi at a cranking speed of approx 230rpm. Yes the coils and leads where working 100% for the past 2-3 months after installing them by a professional mechanic. Okay I will be definetely be heading to another place on Monday, thankyou for your help.
09-08-2012, 04:54 AM
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as I said, 89psi @ 230rpm is on the verge of being below minimum spec. That engine will need to be rebuilt soon anyway... just buy another one from Mazmart and have it installed when the time is right.
09-08-2012, 04:55 AM
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Yeah this mechanic who is supposed to be one of the best rotor specialists in Victoria, Australia under the business name Mazbitz musn't know anything about rx8's. Because your right about under 100psi being bad since they come out of factory at 120-130. I will go do another compression test.
09-08-2012, 05:09 AM
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Yeah this mechanic who is supposed to be one of the best rotor specialists in Victoria, Australia under the business name Mazbitz musn't know anything about rx8's. Because your right about under 100psi being bad since they come out of factory at 120-130. I will go do another compression test.
Do whatever you want I don't care anymore.
Good luck