Superfan

Anyone that has flooded a rotary engine knows that it's more fun to get kicked in the ***** by Bruce Lee on steroids with an iron foot than the procedure to get the motor running again. A quick description of what happens when traditional rotaries flood: Fuel deposits at the base of the chamber. As the engine cranks the apex pushes a bit of gas out of the exhaust port and splashes the rest on the leading spark plug. Enough fuel is deposited on the spark plug that it will not ignite. Now for my question about the RENESIS. Will the new location of the exhaust port make it harder to unflood the engine since the apex seal will not help in pusing out the fuel? Basically, If the engine floods, will it be harder to start than the current rotaries? Considering that the engine bay is a little more cramped. Has anyone seen if the spark plugs are even tougher to get to than the previous generations?

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eccles

Perhaps a better question would be, how exactly do you plan on flooding a Renesis? With my 48IDA-equipped 13B, flooding was all too easy, but with the state of today's EFI systems, I don't envisage it being a particularly routine occurence!

Edit: typo

wakeech

yeah, the flooding problem with FC's was once they got old (as they very well are these days) the injectors became leaky, and would really f*ck you up if you turned on the engine and didn't warm it up all the way before turning it off (liek driving across the parking lot), and it'd flood... i dunno how bad FD's are at it, bu i'd imagine far less.

skip 10 years ahead: this is a brand new car, with brand new stuff in it, with up to date design and components... this car'll be "a challenge" to flood, unless you're a genius at sabotaging your own ECU

Smoker

So what do people do when their Rotary Engine is flooded ????

In pistons-engined cars, the procedure is to floor the throttle all the way and then crank the engine again.

What about the Rotaries guys ?

eccles

The same process should work, but speaking from experience, it's often necessary to pull all four spark plugs, crank the engine for about 30 seconds sans plugs, then dry and reinstall them before trying again.

gettingan8

http://www.nellump.net/peri/epi/firs...dEngStart.html

zoom44

that's good for the old school rotaries but this one is fuel injected and has 6 plugs.

Superfan

the 13b Renesis has 6 plugs??? 3 Per Rotor????

wakeech

no no, it doesn't... i don't wanna put words in his mouth, but i think he may have meant 6 ports, as the older ones had only the 4.'

...and although the RENESIS is heavily based upon 13B architecture, it's not a 13B itself.

justinm2

The old turbo engines had 4. All the N/A engines from the 84 gsl-se to the last N/A fc3 had 6 port motors.

zoom44

oops did i type that?!:o don't know where that came from. ignore it:headsmack headsmack

wakeech

i meant OLD old motors... RX-3's and the like.

T-von

I have always pushed started my car if it ever flooded. Works 100% of the time. I have owned a 81,84,91 rx7. All have flooded except the 84 model(12a). The 91 model only happened once. I currently drive a 94 touring. No probs yet

Superfan

I just had to resurrect this thread...

my rx8 is not starting, help
My RX-8 dead in my garage

wakeech

please, everyone, keep in mind that this was written in March, well before anyone anywhere had their cars, AND that the NA-spec ECUs also run very very rich. thank you for your attention

RobDickinson

My engine number starts 13B.....

wakeech

*grumble grumble* it's a 13B-MSP. 13B size, 13B components, fundamentally different with the Multi-Side Port approach :p

jdaled

Put the whip down, and step away from the dead horse.

Efini 8

The car has diagnosis systems that check if the engine is flooded before its starts depending on some factors.

my10ae

Has anyone thought of doing this? turbo timer