RX8Club.com
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Used CarsVendorsRX8 Live! TSB & Recalls

Go Back   RX8Club.com > Series I Tech & Performance > Series I Tech Garage
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Welcome to RX8Club.com!
Welcome to RX8Club.com,

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join RX8Club.com today!


Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-16-2009, 05:01 PM   #1
I LuV mY Rotary....
 
lepichichi's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (10)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: killADelPhia
Posts: 3,677
Unhappy royal purple tranny/rear fluids fail :(

ok guys here is my story i replaced my tranny and rear fluids about 14 months ago and i was very satisfied with the results but i noticed a little grinding noise when shifting from 3rd to 4th (at high rpms), but it was no biggie.... about 2 months ago i did my summer tune up in which i replaced the tranny and rear diff fluids but now there is a grinding noise when i shift from 1st to 2nd at high rpms (8000 and up). i already order a set of red lines fluids, but i was just wondering if anybody had this type of problem with royal purple?????
This ad is not displayed to registered and logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on RX8Club.com!
__________________
lepichichi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 05:13 PM   #2
幹他媽!
 
Detrich's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
Posts: 2,061
i think a few years back there was an issue with red line or purple royal diff fluids- i forget which one (or possibly both).

basically, everyone who used those had to get their transmissions replaced... u should read up on mazda's TSB's for 3rd party differential fluids, or search for the thread on the forum. there was a ton of info on it...
__________________
2005 Mazda RX-8: GMT 6-Speed: Brilliant Black: Black/ Red Leather: Rotary Accent: Rear Wing Spoiler: Navigation System: 6-Disc/ Cassette: Spare. [5/2005]
1999 BMW 323i: MT 5-Speed i6: Orient Blue: Gray Leather: Premium Package: 10-Speaker HK 6-Disc/ Cassette: Moon-Roof: Fog-Lights: 16" Alloys. [9/1998]
View My Virtual Garage

Detrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 05:27 PM   #3
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,586
Send a message via AIM to mysql101
my tranny had all the syncros fall apart. I won't use RP in my transmission again.
__________________

Turbocharged RX8 - 307 whp, 245 ft-lb torque @ 9 PSI, ??? @ 12 PSI with Satan's Hairdryer. Videos, Rebuild

mysql101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 05:28 PM   #4
Registered User
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SoCal - Stanton
Posts: 74
I had the same problem with the tranny. Rear diff on royal purple is ok, BUT the tranny need to be replace with Red line MT-90 GL4, i repeat MT-90 GL4 only. Do not use any GL5 or mix GL4 and GL5 Fluid (that's what Royal Purple is) on the tranny. I try them all and MT-90 so far is the best for my tranny.
benh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 05:28 PM   #5
Registered
 
shakeyourbrakes's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (4)
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 736
hmm, how about in an auto differential...just changed my diff fluid to royal purple 75w-90 so this kind of worries me
__________________

2005, Injen Intake, Revi duct, Shine Autobahn Front/vented sides, Kenstyle Rear,KEI Office eyelids, lebren 4th light, PRC INGS +1 Wing, custom CF interior kit, AVIC-d3, Prosport evo digital gauges, authentic ferrari 430 dual/quad tips (wrecked), custom catback exhaust, Drilled slotted rotors F/B, + 30 9.5 wide all around
shakeyourbrakes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 05:59 PM   #6
I LuV mY Rotary....
 
lepichichi's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (10)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: killADelPhia
Posts: 3,677
thanks guys for all the info i cant wait to get my red line fluids. I will keep you guys updates once i change the oils
__________________
lepichichi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 06:48 PM   #7
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,586
Send a message via AIM to mysql101
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill View Post
The differential is fine with RP.
The tranny doesn't like RP (except for Max-Gear, maybe?).
That's what I used - rp max gear.

I still have rp in my rear diff. No issues from that.
__________________

Turbocharged RX8 - 307 whp, 245 ft-lb torque @ 9 PSI, ??? @ 12 PSI with Satan's Hairdryer. Videos, Rebuild

mysql101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 07:02 PM   #8
map
Registered User
 
map's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: los angeles, ca
Posts: 463
Although I never had a problem with it, I got scared off RP fluid in my tranny. Switched to BG Synchromesh 2 and grinding was reduced. It's been in there a year or more now. Still feels great.
map is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 07:18 PM   #9
RX-Heaven
 
Trader Score: (6)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vermilion Ohio
Posts: 687
mazdaverx7
i've been using GM synchromesh in my 95 Ranger now for about 50K miles with excellent results. i use redline MT 90 in my RX-7's and so far i have had no problems. in my 85 GS with a 13B, i did however notice more gear whine when initially switching to RP from the conventional valvoline 80W90. the gear whine turned into bad bearings and i subsequently replaced the trans. i'm not sure if the RP caused it but i wont use it in my transmission anymore. i'm still decding what i want to switch over to with the 8...
__________________
05 RX-8 Sport 37K Brilliant Black 6spd
84 RX-7 GSL-SE 82K sunrise red 5spd
85 RX-7 GSL 114K sparkling black 5spd
85 RX-7 GS (with 13B EGI) 143K ocean blue 5spd
88 RX-7 10th Anniversary 97K crystal white
85 Porsche 944 119k Stone Grey 5spd
mazdaverx7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 12:07 AM   #10
DEFAULT
 
ASH8's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: \/
Posts: 8,960
I am using RedLine MT90 Trans and 75W90 Diff and so far 5900 miles and it is great, shift change is Bloody Beautiful....smooth as silk!!

But, it is a little stiff when cold, but this is normal.

At my age my joints are a little stiff too when cold!
__________________
2009 Series 2 RX-8 CWP 6MT
2011 NC2 MX-5 6MT
ASH8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 12:09 AM   #11
Banned
 
Trader Score: (8)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 1,342
^^ but your car is... how old? less than a year eh?
G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 12:16 AM   #12
DEFAULT
 
ASH8's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: \/
Posts: 8,960
Yep...I know it is not "old" but I am happy with Redline, IMO way better than the factory trans oil...my tranny is BOLT action smooth in every gear.
__________________
2009 Series 2 RX-8 CWP 6MT
2011 NC2 MX-5 6MT
ASH8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 12:23 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Trader Score: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 848
I out in amsoil about 9 months ago and have been very happy with it. In the diff and tranny.
__________________
Autobahn front & sides, clear corners, cf hood, cf strakes, all red interior lights, RotaryRasp red led footwell lights, 18x8 40 Enkei EKM3 in gunmetal, ET 500 brake pads.
tunerwannab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 12:28 AM   #14
DEFAULT
 
ASH8's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: \/
Posts: 8,960
Quote:
Originally Posted by tunerwannab View Post
I out in amsoil about 9 months ago and have been very happy with it. In the diff and tranny.
Yep, IMO Amsoil make a good OILS...
__________________
2009 Series 2 RX-8 CWP 6MT
2011 NC2 MX-5 6MT
ASH8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 08:45 AM   #15
jersey fresh
 
dillsrotary's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 3,666
trans grind after royal purple, ordered redline shockproof....

Here you go, documented that rp is way to thin.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawrX8 View Post
But jamming about how its a "Time Attack" and yet no picture of it actually attacking anything but a crowd of teenagers outside a movie theater.
dillsrotary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 09:47 AM   #16
I8U
Grand-Am Supporter
 
I8U's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Goldsboro, NC
Posts: 1,932
I'm not sure how much you track your car if at all. But I have played with tranny and diff oils for a couple years now and found something that holds up very well in a race application. Now this is definitely not recommended for the average street cat but only because I have not tried in a street app...1 and half qts of Redline 75w90 gear oil and a half qt of Redline ATF in the trans and ofcourse 75w90 in the diff.

Now, in my street car I run Redline half and half Redline MT-90 and MTL in the trans and Redline 75w90 in the diff. I've had no problems what so ever.
__________________
FOR SALE:'04 TiGray MT parts car
Current ride: 2010 Celestial Blue MS3, Corksport SRI/TIP
I8U is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 10:43 AM   #17
I LuV mY Rotary....
 
lepichichi's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (10)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: killADelPhia
Posts: 3,677
Quote:
Originally Posted by dillsrotary View Post
trans grind after royal purple, ordered redline shockproof....

Here you go, documented that rp is way to thin.
thanks Bro!
__________________
lepichichi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 10:45 AM   #18
I am SOOOOO down...
 
Atilla's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (1)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Caca Cali
Posts: 6,800
zerolock18
Good info
__________________
Daily Driven...
Atilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 11:37 AM   #19
Jedi Master
 
Jedi54's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (7)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 19,342
Add myself AND Newcastle to the list of failed Transmissions with Royal Purple.
Both of us switched to RP and within a couple months our synchros were FUBAR'd.

29,000 + on the new transmission with Redline fluids and ZERO problems.
__________________

Jedi54 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 11:59 AM   #20
I LuV mY Rotary....
 
lepichichi's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (10)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: killADelPhia
Posts: 3,677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedi54 View Post
Add myself AND Newcastle to the list of failed Transmissions with Royal Purple.
Both of us switched to RP and within a couple months our synchros were FUBAR'd.

29,000 + on the new transmission with Redline fluids and ZERO problems.
i ordered my Red line liquids yesterday they should be here soon, i can't wait, im so pissed off with this royal purple stuff i love my 8 i feel like i ve done my 8 wrong

thanks for the info jedi!
__________________
lepichichi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 12:59 PM   #21
road warrior
 
LionZoo's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,854
After switching around a bit, I'm currently using Motorcraft XT-M5-QS because of a tip from the miata.net guys and I must say I like it very much at the moment. I've changed transmission oil brands at every change, but I think next time I'm going to stick with the Motorcraft.
LionZoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 06:08 PM   #22
I LuV mY Rotary....
 
lepichichi's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (10)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: killADelPhia
Posts: 3,677
hey guys i finally replaced my rp fluids for red lines and there is still a little grinding noise when i shift from first to second at high rpms, but its not as bad as before im begining to think its my tranny eventouht it was shifting just fine before i tried the royal purple stuff

any advices guys???
__________________
lepichichi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 06:59 PM   #23
Proud to be arrogant!
 
rotarygod's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 9,058
Everyone that I've ever seen whose had a problem with RP was using the WRONG product!!! Which one were you using? You should be using Max Gear 75W90 in both the transmission and the rear end. Do not use Syncromax. I've used these for a long time and Brillo has also been using them in his RX-8. It works great. The problem is that people don't use the correct product and then they blame it on that company rather than their lack of proper oil choice. There is NOTHING wrong with RP at all! It is not too thin.
__________________
"None of us on our own is as dumb as all of us combined."

"Torque is a variable. Horsepower is the answer!"

"Meat is murder, tasty tasty murder!"
rotarygod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 07:10 PM   #24
Jedi Master
 
Jedi54's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (7)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 19,342
Quote:
Originally Posted by rotarygod View Post
Everyone that I've ever seen whose had a problem with RP was using the WRONG product!!! .
Nope, you're incorrect on that one.

Myself AND Newcastle had transmission failures with RP while using the correct types. (I even confirmed it with you via a PM)

__________________

Jedi54 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 07:36 PM   #25
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,586
Send a message via AIM to mysql101
i definately had maxgear 75w90. As I said in an earlier post, I still have maxgear in my diff. The transmission felt wonderful with it for around a year before it fell apart.

my dealer asked mazda for a replacement. mazda said no - they would rebuild it. As soon as the tranny was dropped and opened up, they decided they would have to replace it as it was too far gone to be rebuilt. That's how bad it was.
__________________

Turbocharged RX8 - 307 whp, 245 ft-lb torque @ 9 PSI, ??? @ 12 PSI with Satan's Hairdryer. Videos, Rebuild

mysql101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 07:36 PM
RX8Club
Mazda RX8




Paid Advertisement


 
 
 
Reply

Tags
75w90, eneos, gear, gl4, gl5, mix, motorcraft, oil, purple, quart, royal, rx8, tranny, whine, xtm5qs

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Royal Purple White_Shadows Series I Tech Garage 33 03-26-2009 09:53 AM
Royal Purple question OBTIQ Series I Tech Garage 22 12-04-2007 08:30 PM
Royal purple fluids. SoloMazda8 RX-8 Discussion 45 03-13-2007 01:55 PM
Royal Purple Tranny/Diff Fluid Swap brillo Series I Tech Garage 38 08-30-2004 06:03 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.
All content Copyright © 2007 by Internet Brands, Inc.
Emails Backup