titaniumgrey

pissed .. read below for whole story ...

cgrx

I've had an intake for all the recalls - they don't care. They would care if your MAF broke - then they can blame the intake..
You'll be fine - you may want to take out the Canzoomer mod though.....

HorsepowerFreaks

It depends on the dealership. If you don't know how they will respond you should make it look as stock as possible.

titaniumgrey

Anyone got the TSB or emails from mazda saying flooding was covered under warranty ? They said they are charging me 110 for plugs and another 160 for service cause I flooded my car. Anyone know of anything ? Any TSBs or emails can be posted so I can prove it?

Nate


read the last thread .... the dealership is trying to screw me over ...

guy321

That sucks...

I went in with an MIL and they said my plugs were fouled, I should use better gas, and sent me on my way, no charge !


I guess it all depends on the service dept..

As fas as the bullitin, I don't know if there's anything official.

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...1-04-1273d.pdf

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...1-04-1273d.pdf

WHealy

I think this is what you are looking for. It states how the dealer is supposed to file a warentee claim near the end I beleive.

titaniumgrey

Damn I AM pissed! , they are blaming the K&N intake for it , they said " oh we got codes from the ECU and it says the intake is throwing the Air fuel ratio way off , your gonna be charged 240 for the spark plugs and service" anyone know what I should do ? Just dish out the money or do something about it ?

They even wanted to void my warranty!! god damn ... pissed off , this is 128 mazda , and they don't know **** ... they said they can't get mazda to pay for new brake pads since it's squeeking ,and blaming the intake " Oh your car is modified heavily" , wtf .... I took out all the stuff I didn't really need. All I got is intake and exhaust\
Anyone know what I should do ?

titaniumgrey

Oh ya, does mazda keep record of me having a intake if a dealership found it ? Cause I am thiking of just taking it off and going to another mazda dealership next time and getting the new brakes.

mrtux

take it to a different dealership.

even if you were able to get them to do the work i would doubt they would know what they are doing to get the job done right.

titaniumgrey

and lastly , whats the chance of a intake causing flooding ?

titaniumgrey

they already deflooded it ,thats the problem , just waiting for me to pick it up... lol

adrian-1

Some other member said he had work done to his car at the dealership and later found a socket left behind on his left cover (pcm cover). Meaning they looked inside even though the car was brought in for a recall or other minor fix.
I'd be safe and take it out.

titaniumgrey

damn ... I asked them for the PCM code date and they said " I just cleared it ... must have been just now , cause we just charged the battery and put it back in and the code came up"




I thought the codes are stored even if the battery dies ... are they bullshitting me ?

titaniumgrey

dude they are saying 240 now because I am bitchin at them that theres no way the intake caused the flood. (maybe they know they are wrong ? ) I think the PCM code was stored from something else , but they insist that they erased it and don't have the date and that it must be today because he just "took out" the battery .... I think hes bullshitting ... cause I am pretty sure PCM codes are burned in and doesn't need a battery to remember.


and I definitely don't need to go back to highschool for math, I don't even need to take math in college. ... passed the AP exam almost perfectly for calc.


Edit : sorry if I sound like I'm blabbing and sorry for the muiltiple post .. just pissed that the dealership is being such a bitch ...

titaniumgrey

**** happens .... Goto the other thread .. brought it in with intake and exhaust but took out the canzoomer .... anybody that can help me out ? If I can prove the K&N didn't cause the flood , I don't tihnk I have to pay for it. Are PCM codes stored and burned in or do they require the battery to be active ?

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=40534

titaniumgrey

ohm sorry read it wrong lol, sorta in a angry mood , sorry about that

zoom44

if they decide the k&n caused the flood then its you play you pay. there is no "voiding the warrenty" they cant void your whole warrenty based on 1 aftermarket part. what they have to do is prove that the aftermarket part caused your current problem and then make you pay for the repair. now, more than likely it wasnt the typhoon but perhaps the cz was poorly tuned and that caused your problem. not maurices fault either just that it may need tuned for your car.

zoom44

which plugs did they use?

titaniumgrey

Heres the thing , the guy was like " oh I got a code for crack start error " and the thing was because of your K&N intake, then I ask ohh. .. what date was it ? He said oh must be today cause I just pulled out the battery and put it back in .... Now I'mma ask them to pull out the battery again infront of me , if theres no codes, then the intake didn't cause it right ?

That proves my intake didn't cause the flood

snap-on

Why did the guy pull the battery?

The WDS DOES NOT store date...only the number of cycles since last clear.

I have no idea what a crack sensor is..but i'll bet the drug guys would love to have one.

titaniumgrey

lmao , I think he said crack sensor , or crank sensor ? no idea, anyways, they pulled out the battery to recharge it , so I am guessing I am screwed basically .

You think I should tell them to prove it and pull out the battery and tell them to pull some codes once they put it back in? And if theres no codes I think I'm clear , but if they do have codes, I'll be glad to pay it.

rotarygod

A different air filter/intake can not make your car flood any more than a cheeseburger can. The guy's an idiot. Using better gas is also not a valid excuse as this too doesn't matter. It's not like you are trying to use JP9 or Kerosene. The guy is pure and simple lazy. The dealership is crooked.

Tell that service guy to log onto here and talk to me. I'll make him wonder of he puts his underwear on properly each day. There are a few dealerships that monitor this forum and as far as I'm concerned it's because they need to in order to learn things they should already know.

Since I always repeat myself, dealerships are there to sell cars, not to fix them. Also if you flood your car, do not let those barrel of monkeys touch it. If you have a standard, pull it down the street and pop the clutch. It will start everytime. Then turn the car off and pull out the plugs yourself and dry them off. There is no reason to replace spark plugs just because they are dirty. It is too expensive. Clean them and reinstall them. Do not take the advice of that service fix that says to put oil through the engine. You don't restore compression by adding fluid to it. The key is to get it dried out. This is what pulling it down the street in gear does.

titaniumgrey

Hmmz rotary god, thanks for the support - I'mma pay them now and leave a note for the service manager, because my car is done but the service manager isn't in till friday. I'll give him a call then and ask for refund.

zoom44

what plugs did they put in!!!?!!? if they put in the hotter plugs then they did so because of the tsb which means it should be covered i.e. no charge. plus Mazda is already on record several times that they will cover flooding once. then the service guy is supposed to go throught the short trips/cold engine shutdown procedure to make sure you understand it. here's what you should do. first call Mazda yourself and tell them you are having an issue and you need to talk with someoen above the dealership level to make the call on whether this will be covered. second if you need to get your car before a resolution and they wont let you have it without paying then put it on a credit card and then immediatly dispute the charge with your credit card company. third they got the "crank" position sensor error BECAUSE they removed the battery. any time they remove and re-install the battery they will get that error so they are forced to reset the plate profile memory. that's done with the 20 brake tap test. that has nothing to do with your flood