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Old 07-23-2010, 11:29 PM
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Stinksause Attempts tunning

So I finally got my cobb and made the following changes to the stock map:

Fan temp A at 200
Fan temp B at 210

P0420 CEL hidden

I drove around for a bit to set my fuel trims and today I made the following logs to calibrate my MAF

first 2 are cruises
last one is idle followed by a 1st gear pull

My LTFT is a bit over 6% across the board

so I multiplied my MAF by 1.03 across the board.

I am stock up front, with a midpipe and catback out back

Discuss, gimme suggestions etc?


I fucked up the #1 and #3 datalogs when saving them ....
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Congrats, it's not that difficult to do.
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Wait, you rescaled your MAF on a stock intake?
Old 07-24-2010, 10:16 PM
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yeah .... something weird happened tho .... I got a crank position CEL when I flashed to the new map .... I spent half the day trying to figure it out until I flashed back to the last one ... anyone else experience this?
Old 07-24-2010, 11:02 PM
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yes, if you skew your maf too far you'll get a crank sensor code.
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3% is too far??? Does it go away after a drive cycle?
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What the heck is the point of rescaling the MAF on a completely stock intake? If the trims aren't near zero, so what. It's well within the design parameters that Mazda established. Fuel trims change with the weather, that's ok if the underlying calibration is ok and there are no mechanical problems.
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Originally Posted by arghx7
What the heck is the point of rescaling the MAF on a completely stock intake? If the trims aren't near zero, so what. It's well within the design parameters that Mazda established. Fuel trims change with the weather, that's ok if the underlying calibration is ok and there are no mechanical problems.
The idea is to minimize it some so you can run more aggressive in open loop. But the injectors also need to be scaled, so the whole thing can become a chase your tail experience really fast.
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so is there ANY way to scale it without throwing that CEL?
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Leave the first two cells alone (the far left), they stay stock, scale the rest and you'll be fine.
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oh okay ... thanks ... that's idle anyhow I guess
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Originally Posted by stinksause
something weird happened tho .... I got a crank position CEL when I flashed to the new map
Leave the bottom-most MAF scale cell alone (as we discussed in the seminar).
Moving it can cause an ESS cell on some models.

Originally Posted by arghx7
Wait, you rescaled your MAF on a stock intake?
The OE intake can be off by as much as 12%.

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Congrats, it's not that difficult to do.
Like you have any clue.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Like you have any clue.

More than you think, apparently.

So anyway, I popped in to see how the tunaing project was going. Catch anything yet?


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thanks for checking in .... my cobb has an overheating issue and I sent it out for maintenance ... It also will refuse to connect live to ATR ... so I will be back when I receive it
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
More than you think, apparently.
Think? You demonstrated this fundamental ignorance. I don't have to think anything about it for it to be apparent.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Think? You demonstrated this fundamental ignorance. I don't have to think anything about it for it to be apparent.

It's apparent that you're doing a pretty good job of this yourself.



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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
It's apparent that you're doing a pretty good job of this yourself.
Well, yeah. Gutting other people's ill-founded remarks is my specialty.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Well, yeah. Gutting other people's ill-founded remarks is my specialty.
I could have sworn that gutting yourself was your specialty above all else
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guys ... both of you have demonstrated and contributed lots of knowledge on this forum ... and I have nothing but respect for both of you ... but seriously, why do you feel the need to **** on each other on my thread
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Originally Posted by stinksause
but seriously, why do you feel the need to **** on each other on my thread
Because it's fun.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Leave the bottom-most MAF scale cell alone (as we discussed in the seminar).
Moving it can cause an ESS cell on some models.

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Interesting - never seen that . But mine is an 03 so i gues it doesn't have that issue .
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Interesting - never seen that . But mine is an 03 so i gues it doesn't have that issue .
The AUDM/JDM 2003 model is the 2004 export model.
There were no significant changes from the start of production until the switchover to the 2005 MY.

Since you have some significant tuning issues with your PCM, it isn't likely that your example would be relevant.

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