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03-24-2015, 08:00 AM
#926
looks like I can get it here for $75, but this is Chinese knock off..Is tacktrix the only one that will work with S2 ECU, just need inexpensive logger that can store logs directly on sd card or usb flashdrive...
Tactrix Openport 2.0+ECUFLASH
Tactrix Openport 2.0+ECUFLASH
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03-24-2015, 02:09 PM
#927
Don't get the fake ones, the Subaru guys (who these were designed for) have extremely rare luck with the knock offs, them they break do or no reason. I literally only found one thread where it preformed a single successful flash then never worked again. The rest are DOA threads.
03-24-2015, 02:52 PM
#928
that accepts the mini sd card, which will prompt for logging with the logcfg.txt file on it.
how long can it log, how about the whole track session which is 20-30 min?
How big of the card I need. It wold be nice for someone to write how to log post...
As far as how to do a log goes ..... plug it in ,make sure light is flashing quickly, do run , download log after .....
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03-24-2015, 06:40 PM
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Do you mean 1Mb? My half hour-ish commutes generate files of about 900Kb. I have a 1Gb card in mine and just let it fill up until I start getting confused.
You can see a full list of the OBD standard mode 0x01 PIDs here, though they do not include car specific sensors like knock retard, VFAD status etc. These manufacturer specific ones are not generally available though I have pieced together what I can, I'll round them up when I have an hour free. There was something to do with the TPMS, I'll check for you later.
As for the knock retard Brettus, I have added the PID to the attached file and tested it tonight. I guessed the bit length and it does return zero without corrupting the rest of the log, which is a good start. I was however unable to get it to change by pinging the engine or nearside engine mount with a hammer. This is either because it's not reading or doesn't actually work, or that the PCM will not perform knock retard at idle.
I thought I'd check MazdaEdit to see if there were any tables that limit its operation but apparently my Pro license has expired and it won't open. What's the deal with that nowadays, do I have to pay for another year? I seem to remember you mentioning that you could still run it but without support.
Anyway, does anyone fancy beating their engine with a hammer whilst on a rolling road to test this out?
As for the knock retard Brettus, I have added the PID to the attached file and tested it tonight. I guessed the bit length and it does return zero without corrupting the rest of the log, which is a good start. I was however unable to get it to change by pinging the engine or nearside engine mount with a hammer. This is either because it's not reading or doesn't actually work, or that the PCM will not perform knock retard at idle.
I thought I'd check MazdaEdit to see if there were any tables that limit its operation but apparently my Pro license has expired and it won't open. What's the deal with that nowadays, do I have to pay for another year? I seem to remember you mentioning that you could still run it but without support.
Anyway, does anyone fancy beating their engine with a hammer whilst on a rolling road to test this out?
03-24-2015, 11:56 PM
#930
Do you mean 1Mb? My half hour-ish commutes generate files of about 900Kb. I have a 1Gb card in mine and just let it fill up until I start getting confused.
You can see a full list of the OBD standard mode 0x01 PIDs here, though they do not include car specific sensors like knock retard, VFAD status etc. These manufacturer specific ones are not generally available though I have pieced together what I can, I'll round them up when I have an hour free. There was something to do with the TPMS, I'll check for you later.
As for the knock retard Brettus, I have added the PID to the attached file and tested it tonight. I guessed the bit length and it does return zero without corrupting the rest of the log, which is a good start. I was however unable to get it to change by pinging the engine or nearside engine mount with a hammer. This is either because it's not reading or doesn't actually work, or that the PCM will not perform knock retard at idle.
I thought I'd check MazdaEdit to see if there were any tables that limit its operation but apparently my Pro license has expired and it won't open. What's the deal with that nowadays, do I have to pay for another year? I seem to remember you mentioning that you could still run it but without support.
Anyway, does anyone fancy beating their engine with a hammer whilst on a rolling road to test this out?
You can see a full list of the OBD standard mode 0x01 PIDs here, though they do not include car specific sensors like knock retard, VFAD status etc. These manufacturer specific ones are not generally available though I have pieced together what I can, I'll round them up when I have an hour free. There was something to do with the TPMS, I'll check for you later.
As for the knock retard Brettus, I have added the PID to the attached file and tested it tonight. I guessed the bit length and it does return zero without corrupting the rest of the log, which is a good start. I was however unable to get it to change by pinging the engine or nearside engine mount with a hammer. This is either because it's not reading or doesn't actually work, or that the PCM will not perform knock retard at idle.
I thought I'd check MazdaEdit to see if there were any tables that limit its operation but apparently my Pro license has expired and it won't open. What's the deal with that nowadays, do I have to pay for another year? I seem to remember you mentioning that you could still run it but without support.
Anyway, does anyone fancy beating their engine with a hammer whilst on a rolling road to test this out?
If you were recording the actual sensor you wouldn't have to knock the engine to see it . There would be some noise from it without the need for an actual detonation !
03-25-2015, 07:37 AM
#931
Do you mean 1Mb? My half hour-ish commutes generate files of about 900Kb. I have a 1Gb card in mine and just let it fill up until I start getting confused.
You can see a full list of the OBD standard mode 0x01 PIDs here, though they do not include car specific sensors like knock retard, VFAD status etc. These manufacturer specific ones are not generally available though I have pieced together what I can, I'll round them up when I have an hour free. There was something to do with the TPMS, I'll check for you later.
As for the knock retard Brettus, I have added the PID to the attached file and tested it tonight. I guessed the bit length and it does return zero without corrupting the rest of the log, which is a good start. I was however unable to get it to change by pinging the engine or nearside engine mount with a hammer. This is either because it's not reading or doesn't actually work, or that the PCM will not perform knock retard at idle.
I thought I'd check MazdaEdit to see if there were any tables that limit its operation but apparently my Pro license has expired and it won't open. What's the deal with that nowadays, do I have to pay for another year? I seem to remember you mentioning that you could still run it but without support.
Anyway, does anyone fancy beating their engine with a hammer whilst on a rolling road to test this out?
You can see a full list of the OBD standard mode 0x01 PIDs here, though they do not include car specific sensors like knock retard, VFAD status etc. These manufacturer specific ones are not generally available though I have pieced together what I can, I'll round them up when I have an hour free. There was something to do with the TPMS, I'll check for you later.
As for the knock retard Brettus, I have added the PID to the attached file and tested it tonight. I guessed the bit length and it does return zero without corrupting the rest of the log, which is a good start. I was however unable to get it to change by pinging the engine or nearside engine mount with a hammer. This is either because it's not reading or doesn't actually work, or that the PCM will not perform knock retard at idle.
I thought I'd check MazdaEdit to see if there were any tables that limit its operation but apparently my Pro license has expired and it won't open. What's the deal with that nowadays, do I have to pay for another year? I seem to remember you mentioning that you could still run it but without support.
Anyway, does anyone fancy beating their engine with a hammer whilst on a rolling road to test this out?
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-int...6/#post4647951
not sure if this will work on S2 as well
pid: 221177
name: MAF Voltage
sName : MAFv
Min: 0.0
Max: 5.0
Scale x1
Unit: Volts
Equation: ((A*256)+B)/3700
Header: 7E0
Must Have TPMS Installed For These
pid: 22C901
name: Tire 1 Pressure
sName: T1Press
Min: 0
Max: 50
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: ((A * 1373) / 1000) * 0.145037738
Header: 751
pid: 22C901
name: Tire 2 Pressure
sName: T2Press
Min: 0
Max: 50
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: ((B * 1373) / 1000) * 0.145037738
Header: 751
pid: 22C901
name: Tire 3 Pressure
sName: T3Press
Min: 0
Max: 50
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: ((C * 1373) / 1000) * 0.145037738
Header: 751
pid: 22C901
name: Tire 4 Pressure
sName: T4Press
Min: 0
Max: 50
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: ((D * 1373) / 1000) * 0.145037738
Header: 751
pid: 22C902
name: Tire 1 Temp
sName: T1Temp
Min: 0
Max: 200
Scale: x1
Unit: F
Equation: (9/5 * (A - 50)) + 32
Header: 751
pid: 22C902
name: Tire 2 Temp
sName: T2Temp
Min: 0
Max: 200
Scale: x1
Unit: F
Equation: (9/5 * (B - 50)) + 32
Header: 751
pid: 22C902
name: Tire 3 Temp
sName: T3Temp
Min: 0
Max: 200
Scale: x1
Unit: F
Equation: (9/5 * (C - 50)) + 32
Header: 751
pid: 22C902
name: Tire 4 Temp
sName: T4Temp
Min: 0
Max: 200
Scale: x1
Unit: F
Equation: (9/5 * (D - 50)) + 32
Header: 751
03-25-2015, 07:39 AM
#932
I do have elm 257 type OBD reader with wifi, wonder if I can use that instead of open port to capture the logs on my iphone via some app, not sure what the sample rate would be?
this is the reader I have:
specs:
This WIFI interface support all OBDII Protocls.
This WIFI OBD interface are fully compatible with many software, such as engine running parameters monitoring, DTC reading and clearing, MPG meter, etc.
SSID: OBD Device, IP/Port: 192.168.0.10:35000, Antenna: Internal, Wifi Standard: 802.11a/b/g. Please do not change the SSID of the device.
Power Consumption: 0.75 Watts, Operating Temperature: -15 to 100 Celsius, Size: 15x13x4cm
Package including: 1x OBD2 WIFI Diagnostic Reader Scanner, 1x CD
this is the reader I have:
specs:
This WIFI interface support all OBDII Protocls.
This WIFI OBD interface are fully compatible with many software, such as engine running parameters monitoring, DTC reading and clearing, MPG meter, etc.
SSID: OBD Device, IP/Port: 192.168.0.10:35000, Antenna: Internal, Wifi Standard: 802.11a/b/g. Please do not change the SSID of the device.
Power Consumption: 0.75 Watts, Operating Temperature: -15 to 100 Celsius, Size: 15x13x4cm
Package including: 1x OBD2 WIFI Diagnostic Reader Scanner, 1x CD
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03-25-2015, 08:55 AM
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That tpms info looks good, let us know how it goes. I use an elm type Bluetooth reader with Torque for general live information, but for serious logging I switch to the Openport as it's quicker, and torque has a habit of repeating values if it can't read them in time
03-25-2015, 11:12 AM
#934
would I just copy and paste these into txt file you sent me? or do I need to change the format?
03-26-2015, 08:54 AM
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03-26-2015, 02:39 PM
#937
Update ... Seems this is not a negative after all.
For a Pro versiopn - there is no problem to re-sale mazdaEdit with linked OpenPort 2.0
About Personal: if current customer re-flash his car with a stock ROM (I MUST see it) - I'll re-issue a license for a new customer
About Personal: if current customer re-flash his car with a stock ROM (I MUST see it) - I'll re-issue a license for a new customer
03-27-2015, 03:33 PM
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Good to know. So my pro license has expired and the options are pay $250 for another year of support, or he will send a key to carry on unsupported for free. Does anyone make use of the support other than to receive updates?
03-27-2015, 03:43 PM
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03-27-2015, 05:42 PM
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03-27-2015, 06:32 PM
#943
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here's what I just told TeamRX8 via PM
So MEP starts with a dump of your current flash and all subsequent updates are derived from it.
The AP does some checking before it uploads a flash (it's a stand-alone flash -- not a copy of your original -- the original is merely backed up on the AP itself and used for restore/uninstall.
What I've seen is the AP finds differences in the metadata between the RB flash and its base flash and when they don't match it chokes.
I think with Epifan the trick would be in the initial "dump" you do. If we can pull the RB flash then logic states we should be able to modify it.
And if there are sections beyond the accessible flash that RB modifies they'd still be there since mep would have no visibility to them.
But I dunno. It's quite a gamble to try it and fail.
So MEP starts with a dump of your current flash and all subsequent updates are derived from it.
The AP does some checking before it uploads a flash (it's a stand-alone flash -- not a copy of your original -- the original is merely backed up on the AP itself and used for restore/uninstall.
What I've seen is the AP finds differences in the metadata between the RB flash and its base flash and when they don't match it chokes.
I think with Epifan the trick would be in the initial "dump" you do. If we can pull the RB flash then logic states we should be able to modify it.
And if there are sections beyond the accessible flash that RB modifies they'd still be there since mep would have no visibility to them.
But I dunno. It's quite a gamble to try it and fail.
03-27-2015, 10:36 PM
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I don't know what you mean by "mep". You can only pull the map if its the stock OE map. Once its been flashed by another (including MazdaEdit), no one else can read or flash it as the security code has changed (think of it as a password to read/write the map). If a Cobb is "installed" (which really just means it has a Cobb flash) MazdaEdit cannot read that map. The opposite would also be true. The same goes for Racing Beat and Pettit Racing flashes. Not even the dealer can flash it (at least not in the traditional way). I believe the dealer can force flash it but thats probably expensive (I could be wrong on this one).
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03-27-2015, 10:43 PM
#947
mep = MazdaEdit
I believe it depends on the software being used rather than the flash. I recall that the Harrison flash system would copy any map, but they were willing to add blocking if it was requested by another company. I know it copied most anything early on. The only problem was there was no flash editing software with it. It required hex exiting and never was popular as a result.
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I believe it depends on the software being used rather than the flash. I recall that the Harrison flash system would copy any map, but they were willing to add blocking if it was requested by another company. I know it copied most anything early on. The only problem was there was no flash editing software with it. It required hex exiting and never was popular as a result.
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03-27-2015, 10:45 PM
#948
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mep == mazdaedit ... it's epifan's codename for it
I heard a story from the horse's mouth about the EFI Dude (I think tied to Pettit) map being pulled to discover it was one of MM's early maps before Cobb fixed the ATR security hole.
I heard a story from the horse's mouth about the EFI Dude (I think tied to Pettit) map being pulled to discover it was one of MM's early maps before Cobb fixed the ATR security hole.
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04-11-2015, 11:13 AM
#949
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I know I'm going further OT but please bear with me. Posting here because I know the right peeps are subbed to this thread for a good answer.
If I follow correctly anyone can get an annual subscription to Mazda's IDS service (IDS Software) for about $800 annually. Is this correct?
And with a $200 or so dongle purchase via some place like Aliexpress (Wholesale 2015 High Quality VCM2 Diagnostic Scanner VCM II IDS For Ford/Mazda 2 in 1 OBD2 Scanner DHL Free-in Code Readers & Scan Tools from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group) anyone can have full OE flash capabilities, correct?
If I follow correctly anyone can get an annual subscription to Mazda's IDS service (IDS Software) for about $800 annually. Is this correct?
And with a $200 or so dongle purchase via some place like Aliexpress (Wholesale 2015 High Quality VCM2 Diagnostic Scanner VCM II IDS For Ford/Mazda 2 in 1 OBD2 Scanner DHL Free-in Code Readers & Scan Tools from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group) anyone can have full OE flash capabilities, correct?
04-11-2015, 03:35 PM
#950
I've looked into that! Yes, the Mazda IDS software will give you tuning capabilities just the way your thinking. I'm not sure how the software is, but presumably it's at the same visual level as ATR or MeP.
You would not have to buy that dongle, because the OpenPort 2 that we all have was designed as a universal J2534 relay (which all IDS softwares are required to support).
You would not have to buy that dongle, because the OpenPort 2 that we all have was designed as a universal J2534 relay (which all IDS softwares are required to support).