rotaryPilot

I would like to inform all the RX-8 owners who are looking for European Access Port, that it is now available through Easy Tuning

Site
www.easytuning.gr

On the first page of the site you can see a dyno showing very good results.


After some reading I came to the conclusion that there are a lot of people that do not know European Access Port is available since September !!!!

A quote of the dyno from the site's first page



The RX-8 was a 6port Manual

rotaryPilot

^ Can you please elaborate more on this ?

You mean that the version the dealer sells is a beta one? You mean that Cobb Tuning has not released a final version for European Specs till now?

How is it possible? The specific dealer does not say anything about beta .

rotaryPilot

Ok, so I understand that selling Beta AccessPort is not necessarily bad since you have followed such a way with no problems.

However, I also understand that the specific dealer sells very expensive the Beta AccessPort.

So now that I guess that we have sorted out some things can you please explain to me how can you provide a European Access Port for an RX-8 low power 5 Manual having an aftermarket intake like revi?

What is the process for such a car so that a proper Access Port Program will be installed on it? And how can this be done remotely?

rotaryPilot

Also I see there is AccessPort for stock European RX-8 with 927 US dollars which again is higher than your price

rotaryPilot

In you site you ask for additional 295 for custom calibrations. So 695+295= 990 US dollars which is still lower than the European dealer I have quoted.


Another thing is that in your site you have a pre-order for EUDM. However, I have not seen AccessPort for European lowpower BUT with 5 Manual Transmission !!!!

In Europe the are available the following RX-8 versions

231bhp 6MT
192bhp 5MT

paulmasoner

iTrader: (1)

if you read close, thats for additional tuning. aka extra tuning later on or whatever

when you purchase the AP you get a "package" of up to 6 custome tunes within a time period of six months all for FREE...... its something pretty close to that, i may have missed details so go check his site

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Calibration Service is INCLUDED with the AccessPORT purchase.

Yeah, I'll have to update the purchase pages for the 4-port, 5-speed.
Its available, too.

Plus, 2009 support is coming soon.

gvang

I hope this doesn't get deleted again as un-authorized.

As we are talking about my company, EasyTuning, I believe I have the right to answer some of the questions stated.

First of all, I have an official contract with CobbTuning for selling/tuning the AP.

Secondly, CobbTuning is responsible for the price we are selling. The retail price of the product is set by CobbTuning not by us.

As for the calibrations, I would not like to comment of what I think can be done remotely, how successfully such programming can be, given that we have different type of gasoline as well as other factors.

Furthermore, all calibrations included in the European AP are developed by EasyTuning and not CobbTuning (as they do not have access to European cars yet).

So please do not try to impress with your statements, as I believe that you are might exaggerating a bit.

As for the BETA, I am not aware of using such software, as CobbTUNING never mentioned anything about beta.

Regards,
George

P.S. I do not want to start any disagreements, but be sure that I will investigate your announcements with Trey....

zoom44

you are allowed to chat just no directing people to your website posting links to selling info or posting of prices. feel free to rebut the earlier comments. just keep it civil George

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Sorry. Didn't mean to step on your toes.

Carry on.

However, let it be noted that of the 5 assertions that you make above, only ONE is factual.
I'll let the reader come to a conclusion about which that might be.



Also noted. I have hereby satisfied the requirements therein.

rotaryPilot

Ι have never got an answer to my question. Remote Tuning? How?

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

I provide a set of calibrations that "zero" the MAF reference.
Then, you datalog your engine's output (lambda, MAF, RPM, etc.) and I then send you adjusted calibrations that tune your fuel curve for maximum performance.
We can then adjust ignition timing based on your available fuel quality.
The AccessPORT is a powerful tool.

gvang

Well, I think you meant fully to step on my toes, and you still are.....by leaving the impression that my statements are not true.

If you have to point out something that you believe is untrue, you would better name it, instead of just trying to make an impression.

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Well, let's see:

True. The only statement in your post that is.

Not true.

Retail price set by Cobb is 547 Euros ($695 USD), not 773 ($983 USD). I won't even get into the 357 Euros ($454 USD) you charge for a single "custom" tune.

I have been traveling back and forth to Europe most of my adult life - including Greece. I know all about European gasoline. Even if it were pixie ****, it wouldn't affect the tuning and you know it.
How many of these units have you actually programmed, let alone sold? In which countries?

They most certainly do have access. Ask me how.
That said, only your "custom" tune is an EasyTune calibration. The remainder are just ported versions of the Cobb tunes. Once again, ask me how I know.

Not true. Read your contract and your NDA. Once again, ask me how I know.

Efharisto ki Kali tihi.

rotaryPilot

^
MazdaManiac How do you know all these information ?

Is it possible to know what is in the contract between easytuning and cobb tuning ? If yes please explain to us.

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Because I have an involved relationship with Cobb and I've been working with the AccessPORT for 10 months (not including the two years I've spent going back and forth with Cobb before it became available for the RX-8).

gvang

Well, you are wrong. The price set by Trey himself is 650 Euro plus VAT (which depends on the country in which it is sold, as UK for example might have different VAT than Spain).
With today's exchange ratio, that would be 819 USD plus VAT (For Greece, 19% or 155 USD) which totals : 974 USD.
As it is your word against mine, and as I would not like to disclose email correspondence I have with CobbTuning, I will forward our small dispute to Trey Cobb and let him answer!


Well If you mean that octane rating does not effect for example ignition timing, than let it be known that I do not agree with your statement.
Also, how many units we have already programmed or not is not of your concern.
I have dyno-results as well as impressions by our first customers that proof positive results and speak for themselves.
Regarding the countries we have sold to as yet, this is an issue that concerns us and CobbTuning, and is not your business.


Well, you are wrong again. Ask Cobb if they have any calibrations.
Any European calibrations available are programmed by us.
Again, I dare you to prove otherwise.
Please be also informed that we do not have access to the US version of the AccessTUNER software. Therefore, even if we wanted to "copy" Cobb's versions, we couldn't. We do not have basemap's for US versions.


Are you implying that you are aware of OUR Non Disclosure Agreement?
If yes, be prepared for a serious law-suit.


For the non Greek speaking readers, it means : Thank you and good luck.

Well I do not thank you for being arrogant at least, but I sure wish you good luck. I am sure you will need it in the near feature.

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

Look, I'm not trying to start a fight with you here. I'm only interested in the transparency of the process and the facts.

With regards to my other threads, I've satisfied the requirements set forth by your contract with Cobb.
Feel free to charge whatever you want for your products and services and claim whatever you want about the same.
I don't think anyone is interested in engaging you in a legal battle any more than they are in discussing your perceptions of their attitude.

The AccessPORT - Its just a little box full of numbers.
But understand that it is Cobb's box and they will market it how they please.
Enjoy the remaining days.

Trey@COBB

[MODS: I apologize in advance for mentioning pricing but I've been asked to confirm the EU AP pricing. Not for the sole purpose of selling anything but rather trying to inform]

It is true that the EU RX-8 AP price was set at 650 Euro + VAT. This was done simply to give stability to what dealers and enthusiast pay for the product, instead of dealing with constantly fluctuating currencies. We have done with for other vehicles/markets with success.

I appreciate everyone's excitement about the availability of the EU RX-8 AccessPORT. EasyTuning debuted it at the Athens Tuning Show on September 16th. While we don't offer any COBB maps for the European models, EasyTuning has developed their own tuning for the AccessPORT.

We will be making an official announcement next week, though it won't be available for purchase from us. Hopefully that won't be too confusing or awkward. However they are available from EasyTuning now.

Cheers,
Trey @ COBB

zoom44

thank you Trey for the clarity. much appreciated

rotaryPilot

It seems that Trey have clarified everything ! Thanks Trey for the clarification and sorry for the trouble that this thread caused. I just wanted to inform people about European AP availability.

gvang

I just wanted to thank Trey for clearing things out and wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy and healthy New Year.

Regards,
George