cz-midp4

diegodog · 06-05-2004, 02:47 AM

Does this come with all the materials needed to complete the job? In a previous threat I noticed some people needed an extra piece. Is that true?

Also can a person of average inteligence install this on their own?

Thanks!

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Jay Goldfarb · 06-05-2004, 07:24 AM

Installed yesterday stage 2 CZ with cat and midpipe. Problems can be expected. First the O2 sensor wouldn't come out of the old cat. Than we had leakage with new 2 piece system. It didn't leak between the cat and midpipe, but did at both ends. We had to use sealant (red) to stop leaks. Need to take bolts out of old Cat or replace with new ones. I can't remember if the Hi Flow Cat or resonator was hitting bottom of car, but one of them was. We weren't able to use the straps that go under the factory resonator due to new one being bigger.

Not a great job of engineering or quality. If Borla comes up with a new Hi Temp Cat and resonator, I am sure the quality and fit will be much better...

Time wise - a 30 minute job took 90 and this is with a lift.

smrx8 · 06-05-2004, 07:58 AM

wow glad you posted this info im hold back on this for now,you said you have stage 2 i thought it was not out?

shebam · 06-05-2004, 11:10 PM

My guys (a speed shop) said they had no issues with the installation -- did a new Borla at the same time -- but it did take more than an hour. (Also thought S2 was not out.)

RX-8 friend · 06-06-2004, 11:21 AM

You can buy the "Stage 2" - hardware - as listed on the Camzoomer.com site. There is no special map for stage 2 at the moment, because we're finding the variation in the sensors (MAF and TPS in particular but also O2) from car to car is too great for one map to work on all cars it may be tried on. So the box comes with the "production" map (currently May 18).

As I have been saying for quite a while now, Stage 2 is for racing, and if you want to use it, you should know how to tune the car and be prepared to do it. A true Stage 2 tune will actually require changes over time to keep you out of detonation territory.

Read the first post in "Stage Number explainations". Note the date it was posted.

Also, while we sell the high flow cat and resonator, we don't - make - them. We helped develop them. If you have problems with them (and you bought from us) we will attempt to resolve the issue to your and our satisfaction. We don't want to be selling product that doesn't fit!

Also, not to beat a dead horse, read the posts by Omicron in the Modification area on his experience with the high flow cat and resonator. Note that it will be noisier, especially with a cat back system.