wonderful-life

I have a 2004 RX8, so I can forget this about keyless ignition right? When the steering lock is in the way?

PTY RX-8

vERY kOOL gIG. wILL iT WORK ON MY at rx-8?
wHERE DO i GET THIS bUTTON?
tKS

chakkos

Paulmasoner what if instead of removing the steering lock you leave the ignition key to the ON position always.
I have seen that you used 2 extra switches to simulate the ACC and ON possitions so if these 2 switches are OFF and ignition key to ON the car would still be in the OFF position.
I know in that way that you loose the steering lock but you still have the immobilizer.

I am thinking of doing that option, what do you think?

Nopstnz8

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Can you use the button as an alternative way to start the car so if you just wanted to use the key, turning the key to the on position would work?

digital01

For everyone using the S2K push start button, a floppy drive power cable connector actually fits perfectly into the back of the button. It'll save you time of trying to hardwire it into the back. Just a little FYI to make things easier. You can just pull one out from an old computer.

StealthTL

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Great find!

Plug'n'play!

S

paulmasoner

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nice catch with the floppy cable plug-n-play!

as dead as this topic is for me, i'll bite. leaving the ignition in the ON position would not help in anyway. The lock is electronic and on a timer. If i turn the ignition to ON i hear the lock disengage, but if i dont turn the actual ignition to START within about 6-8 seconds, the lock re-engages.

Nopstnz8

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Anyone?

I8U

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^Why would you install the button in the first place then?

Nopstnz8

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So if I felt lazy and didn't want to have to go and reach for the button I could just turn the key. I would like to be able to use the button only when I want to show it off to people or when I want that cool feel.

paulmasoner

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The way the "start buttons" that we all did work is like this:
1) put key in ignition(for those of us with keycards, we just sit down with keycard in pocket)
2) turn ignition to ON position
3) press start button
4) to turn car off - turn ignition to OFF position
5) remove key, go inside and touch yourself thinking about how awesome your "start button" is

What I was trying to accomplish: (i have keycard and keyless ignition)
-disable the electronic steering lock(never figured this out, should have sought more help from the Koni guy's since i KNOW they've done it)
-wire up a toggle for OFF/ON position(did this, it worked, the rotary switch in the ignition is pretty simple)
-install start button
-be able to get in car, flig a toggle, press start button and drive away

what i managed to do:
-get in car, flip toggle, press start button, and idle
-i could not drive the car like this since the steering lock is still engaged. it disengages when i turn the ignition to the ON position, but re-engages after 6-8 seconds if i do not turn the ignition to the START position and start the motor

what i eventually wanted to do:
-assuming i had ever gotten everything figured out, i wanted to replace the OFF/ON toggle and the start button with a single button. i wanted a push button switch that had a locking detent so i could start and stop the car with one simple push button. at one point i had found such a switch but it was grotesque. ***see attachted MS Paint masterpiece that attempts to describe what i mean.



i got asked alot about security and disabling the steering lock. i was/am not worried about it. If a thief can get into my car, stop the alarm, and get it started.... the steering lock isnt going to stop him. hell the steering lock can be broken in 2 seconds with a prybar.
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chakkos

Hi paulmasoner, this is very similar to what I was trying to do, so I wanted to ask you a few questions:
Did you disable completely the ignition key or can be used in combination?
If you didn't disable it completely, If you would always leave the ignition key to ON, I think this would resolve your problem of steering lock.
What do you think?

Nopstnz8

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So with the button installed, the only way to start the car is by turing it to accessory and then pushing the button? Is there a way to wire it so I could do it that way, or just turn the key completely and forget about the button for times when I am in a rush? Thanks.

notorque

here is the order when you put the key in the ignition...... ACC then ON then START...when you turn on your car you turn it to START, then notice it springs back to sit in the ON position. one more click back the motor turns off but your radio stays on, one more click back and you take out the key....... with push button how it is configured here----when you put your key in, like EVERY other car with a start button (s2000/ford GT/ bugatti VEYRONN)))) you have to put the key in(or be in car), turn it to on(skip with comfort key), THEN push the button.........

paulmasoner

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No i never disabled the ignition(as in where you'd put your key in). If i always left the key in the ON position the battery would die unless i have the ignition completely rewired to a switch in which case turning it wouldn't do anything since the lock is electronic And it wouldnt solve steering lock for my car. I have an 06 Shinka with keyless ignition - i have a **** to run instead of putting a key in. When i turn that **** to the ON position, i have only a few seconds to turn it to START or the steering lock re-enables.

The normal(and only feasible for most people) way to install a start button will result in these possibilities:
1) Put key in, turn to ON, press start button, drive, park, turn key to OFF
2) You can still use the key like normal if you didnt want to press the button.
All the start button does is give you an alternate way to crank the starter motor, everything else stays the same

most of the vehicles that offer keyless ignition these days have fully push button start and stop. ie - get in, push button and drive, park, push buttong and get out.

notorque

you have to put the key in(or be in car), turn it to on(skip with comfort key), THEN push the button.........

Thats why i mention in () to get in car and skipping the turning on step if you have a comfort key...well keyless ignition, I got a 328i and bmw calls it a comfort key

Nopstnz8

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Thanks for the clarification. That is exactly what I wanted to know.

warren(silver-roxy-8)

this is pretty nifty

paulmasoner

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and simple and fun to do

warren(silver-roxy-8)

for sure, im gonna look into this tomorrow! i've always wanted push button start. thanks for the demonstration!

Demon8

That is awesome!

RX8-LEO

My 8 already install a mazda engine start button, but it doesnt work, I dont know how to take this out (the coin box). Any brothers can help?

Conundrum

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I believe you have to remove the trim around the red button then remove the screws in order to take of the cover off.... I need to find the start button installation instruction, or if you can find the one for miata should be about the same installation.

Hi paulmasoner,

Where is the electronic steering lock located? Do you have a picture of it? I looked for it in the work manual and couldn't find it, likely I'm looking at the wrong pages.

uberranger

I duno if anyone reads/writes this thread anymore, but does this setup work so that you have to hold the button down to start? like how you have to hold the key 'turned'?

iLikeEatPoo

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Would anyone happen to have a picture of the exact wire splice for set up B? I tried it but the button nor key worked. Thanks.