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DIY: Mazda Zoom Power Engine Cleaner (Engine Cleaning, Seaform)

Old 03-09-2009, 11:13 PM
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no way i got that much smoke maybe like 20 secs then thats it no effin way that thick of smoke
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a lot of smoke = dirty engine

so u should be happy if u dont have smoke.

when I first did mine, man, its like over a minute I still see smoke.
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i never saw smoke
Old 03-09-2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
i never saw smoke
there were some. not much thats all

u suppose to be happy u know :P
Old 03-10-2009, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
i never saw smoke
How long did you let it sit for? I let mine and my friend AJ sit for about one hour.

Originally Posted by tunerwannab
Here is the video of the cleaning i did on 2/25.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CB_-BQKB08

Ever since then though my car starts as if i just put the cleaner in it when it is cold. It runs much better and idles smoother but starts as if I just did the cleaning process and am starting it for the first time after. Any ideas?

I installed my BHR ignition while the cleaner sat in the car, I changed the spark plugs a few days later.
Did you change your oil after you did the seaform?

Originally Posted by nycgps
a lot of smoke = dirty engine

so u should be happy if u dont have smoke.

when I first did mine, man, its like over a minute I still see smoke.
Dirty engine. K good info. I'll let my friend AJ know
Old 03-10-2009, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SebtownRx8
no way i got that much smoke maybe like 20 secs then thats it no effin way that thick of smoke
Man I had smoke like that video it was scary. Dom and I let it sit for an hour had a few brews and came back and started it. Thick smoke for days, should I do it again? My car starts up fine, no problem.
Old 03-10-2009, 01:59 AM
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dominion i will change the oil tomarrow. Like and idiot I changed the oil about 2 weeks before i did it.

aj I would do it again. How long has it been since you have done it? If you look at my youtube profile you can see the video from the first time I did it. It was only a couple thousand miles in between.
Old 03-10-2009, 02:06 AM
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man.. i need to do mine again. it's been ~7k miles. but I live in an apartment complex and I think the management will freak with the smoke.

i did mine back at my parent's house, and i swear, white smoke covered my block. haha
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Originally Posted by tunerwannab
dominion i will change the oil tomarrow. Like and idiot I changed the oil about 2 weeks before i did it.

aj I would do it again. How long has it been since you have done it? If you look at my youtube profile you can see the video from the first time I did it. It was only a couple thousand miles in between.
3 days ago.
Old 03-10-2009, 02:43 AM
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^Just wait bro. I'll do it agen and when I do I'll let you know in advance. BTW I have 4 can's left lol
When I first did mine it was smoking like yours bro.
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Originally Posted by AJ's Shinka
Man I had smoke like that video it was scary. Dom and I let it sit for an hour had a few brews and came back and started it. Thick smoke for days, should I do it again? My car starts up fine, no problem.
i dono but like i said the first time i did it maybe 30 secs of light smoke and i let it sit for an hour ( and thats after taking it around the twisties around here pretty fast to get her nice and warm), then the second time 20 seconds tops and even when i reved it like no smell or smoke like the first time. so if yours looked like that video i'd say no harm in doing it again, i have like 3 cans of the zoom power cleaner left though. i'm wondering if sea foam is a little stronger or something to get that thick smoke but who knows.
Old 03-10-2009, 05:55 PM
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the smoke doesnt matter.

just do it properly, the only thing that matters is whats going on inside, DONT WORRY ABOUT SMOKE/NO SMOKE. IT DOES NOT MATTER.

figured id put that out there to end the discussion lol. but seriously, the more smoke = the more carbon, generally "sticky carbon" causes the smoke, chipped off "hard" carbon wont smoke, and clean motors won't smoke.

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Old 03-10-2009, 07:28 PM
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Cool

Originally Posted by SebtownRx8
i dono but like i said the first time i did it maybe 30 secs of light smoke and i let it sit for an hour ( and thats after taking it around the twisties around here pretty fast to get her nice and warm), then the second time 20 seconds tops and even when i reved it like no smell or smoke like the first time. so if yours looked like that video i'd say no harm in doing it again, i have like 3 cans of the zoom power cleaner left though. i'm wondering if sea foam is a little stronger or something to get that thick smoke but who knows.
^How did you do it? I looked at the can in 3 sections. Put one into the gas tank one into the oil and the last of what was in the can I had AJ crank his car well the vac line sucked up the seaform. I pulled the vac line off the brake booster that Paul told me to use and when you crank the car it sucks seaform into the intake and down into the SSV Acuator <- I hope lol
So is that how you did it?

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the smoke doesnt matter.
just do it properly, the only thing that matters is whats going on inside, DONT WORRY ABOUT SMOKE/NO SMOKE. IT DOES NOT MATTER.
figured id put that out there to end the discussion lol. but seriously, the more smoke = the more carbon, generally "sticky carbon" causes the smoke, chipped off "hard" carbon wont smoke, and clean motors won't smoke.
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^Yup
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What amount of time would you guys suggest running the car at idle after using the cleaner if no additional oil is injected until the engine is properly lubed?
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just keep the idle high enough to keep it running until it warms up. then I would rev it.
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Oh and I did an oil change wednesday, and havent noticed any difference in the "rough starts"
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^Clean you MAF sensor and check your spark plugs
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Will clean MAF, plugs are 10 days old.
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tunerwannab do you have the msp16 flash as well?

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tunerwannab do you have the msp16 flash as well?

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Yes sir i do.
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might as well spray the cleaner.. and in the hour you wait while it soaks.. change the spark plugs. they only take 15 min to swap out.
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I just did this and got nothing, not any smoke at all, only a hint of smell, and no CEL. 37kmi
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Originally Posted by teknics
the smoke doesnt matter.

just do it properly, the only thing that matters is whats going on inside, DONT WORRY ABOUT SMOKE/NO SMOKE. IT DOES NOT MATTER.

figured id put that out there to end the discussion lol. but seriously, the more smoke = the more carbon, generally "sticky carbon" causes the smoke, chipped off "hard" carbon wont smoke, and clean motors won't smoke.

kevin.
How do you know this?

Imo, if you put 8 oz of naptha and light oil into an exhaust system you are going to get great clouds of smoke, even on a brand-new engine. This is how sky-writing planes make smoke -- oil injection into the exhaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywriting

For those who don't get smoke the only thing I can imagine is that the CAT is dead and not getting hot enough to volatilize the stuff.
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Originally Posted by Nubo
How do you know this?

Imo, if you put 8 oz of naptha and light oil into an exhaust system you are going to get great clouds of smoke, even on a brand-new engine. This is how sky-writing planes make smoke -- oil injection into the exhaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywriting

For those who don't get smoke the only thing I can imagine is that the CAT is dead and not getting hot enough to volatilize the stuff.
he is a certified mazda technician that works at Wayne Mazda that has worked on alot of our cars here in NY/NJ area..

i would venture a guess that the man knows his stuff..
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And the explanation involving the sticky carbon vs the hard carbon chips seemed to make sense as a reason you would or wouldn't see smoke. Though I'm no engineer.

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