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Old 02-08-2008, 09:32 AM   #1
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Will these mods make my 8 to low?

I just got an rx8 a couple months ago (and love it) and I just ordered these 2 things...

http://www.highperformanceoutlet.com...Springs/Detail

http://www.evo-r.net/product/RX-8/KS_Lip/index.htm

I was wondering how low the front end is going to be? Am I going to have to avoid speed bumps so that the lip doesn't get ripped off? Will it be legal? Thanks.
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oh god. You really took a gamble on those springs... Go to TEIN's website and read about the counterfeit teins that are being distributed. You were 100% better off spending a few extras bucks to be sure you were getting the real thing....


If you get real teins and that lip you will be fine, just have to be careful around bigger speedbumps. If it looks like too much, just avoid it. Legality depends on state, they are all differrent.
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I actually looked deeper into this. If you have not received those springs cancel your order. That website is not an authorized Tein dealer. They also ONLY sell tein S-techs. The ONLY counterfeiting going on is of the S-techs. PM Charles R. Hill about getting a real set at a good price.

http://www.tein.com/counterfeit/index.html
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I just got an rx8 a couple months ago (and love it) and I just ordered these 2 things...

http://www.highperformanceoutlet.com...Springs/Detail

http://www.evo-r.net/product/RX-8/KS_Lip/index.htm

I was wondering how low the front end is going to be? Am I going to have to avoid speed bumps so that the lip doesn't get ripped off? Will it be legal? Thanks.
Depends on what you are willing to put up with. Just be careful how far you pull into parking spaces and don't go over any speedbumps. Also it gets lower when more people get in your car.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:30 AM   #6
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oh god. You really took a gamble on those springs... Go to TEIN's website and read about the counterfeit teins that are being distributed. You were 100% better off spending a few extras bucks to be sure you were getting the real thing....


If you get real teins and that lip you will be fine, just have to be careful around bigger speedbumps. If it looks like too much, just avoid it. Legality depends on state, they are all differrent.
Oh damn, I didn't realize there was any risk I was just looking for the best price.. I'm kind of a noob. Never been into moding before and hadn't planned on doing anything with the rx8. I just wanted black rims at first and then one thing led to another and now I'm fighting the urge to drop tons of money on all kinds of crap lol.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:32 AM   #7
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So you think all this is just bs to try and rip people off?

"This auction is for a set of 100% GENUINE and BRAND NEW Tein S.Tech Lowering Springs!

Brand New, Un-Opened and in Original Packaging!! TEIN S-TECH Springs are an excellent way to lower your ride height for a more aggressive appearance and stiffen up your suspension for improved handling. They come with a 1 year limited warranty and the spring length is guaranteed not to sag more than 5mm and to be clear of any manufacture defects."
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If they were a real authorized dealer I wouldn't think twice of it. But the only time counterfeit springs are going around are on auctions by non-tein-authorized dealers. If I was you, there is NO way I would install those on my car. It's not worth the risk. They will look just like the Teins to the untrained eye, but there are ways to tell. Also, their pictures are not of actual product you are receiving, so there is no telling if it is legit or not. That price is definitely too low for a legit set of S-techs.
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I actually looked deeper into this. If you have not received those springs cancel your order. That website is not an authorized Tein dealer. They also ONLY sell tein S-techs. The ONLY counterfeiting going on is of the S-techs. PM Charles R. Hill about getting a real set at a good price.

http://www.tein.com/counterfeit/index.html
I just placed the order last night, how do I go about canceling it? I'd much rather pay an extra few bucks for peace of mind.
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yeah man... Just call them directly. Typically places like that don't ship for a few days anyways. Tell them you opted for a different suspension set up if they ask.
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I just placed the order last night, how do I go about canceling it? I'd much rather pay an extra few bucks for peace of mind.
Easiest way is call your card company and place a hold on the transaction before it goes through, then call the place and tell them you want to cancel.

PS. research = good. Your car is the thing that is going to be carrying you at 80mph down the road, on stuff like brakes and suspension. You "really" want to be sure that you are getting the best quality, and whoever is working on your car knows what they are doing...

Nobody wants a wheel coming off, or an unable to brake disaster.
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I just looked up the VA law... I'm confused. This is what it says:

"Alteration of suspension system; bumper height limits; raising body above frame rail. -- No person shall drive on a public highway any motor vehicle registered as a passenger motor vehicle if it has been modified by alteration of its altitude from the ground to the extent that its bumpers, measured to any point on the lower edge of the main horizontal bumper bar, exclusive of any bumper guards, are not within the range of fourteen inches to twenty-two inches above the ground."

It's only like 8 or 9in off the ground stock.. am I missing something?
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bumper bar is the bar behind your front bumper. Should be about an inch below the top of your front liscense plate in that picture.


Its the black bar in the very front:


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Ok i was just going by the lowest point on the front of the car... like I said I'm a complete noob I have a lot of learning to do. I've had 2 trucks and a mustang but never felt the urge to get into mods until now. For some reason the rx8 is having that affect on me. At first I thought it was fine just the way it was... then I started thinking "but wouldn't it be sick if it just had this... and then if I just did this.." and it just snowballed from there and now I want it all lol. Luckily I've got some friends that really know what their doing. The guy whos mainly walking me through everything had a TC that he did a ton of stuff to, check it out it's pretty sweet: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/774075 (and yes I agree he does look like a *** in the pics )

Anyway... You guys have got me really suspicious of that site is there any way I can find out where they are based out of? If they're in the U.S. I would trust it a lot more because it would be hard for them to say that stuff about 100% genuine parts and garuntees and warranties and not get into legal trouble. If the site is based out of like the caribean or something then they could say pretty much anything and noone could do much about it.
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Don't let this guy scare you off of those springs from ebay. Plenty of us have bought these springs from ebay and they are perfectly legitimate. There's not a high demand for RX8 springs so the chance of someone taking the time to counterfeit these is pretty low. Actually, I haven't even heard of anyone confirming that they've seen counterfeit ones for the 8. I would expect them to be more prevalent in the honda/acura market.

Anyway, this guy has over 800 feedbacks with 99.9% positive.
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Don't let this guy scare you off of those springs from ebay. Plenty of us have bought these springs from ebay and they are perfectly legitimate. There's not a high demand for RX8 springs so the chance of someone taking the time to counterfeit these is pretty low. Actually, I haven't even heard of anyone confirming that they've seen counterfeit ones for the 8. I would expect them to be more prevalent in the honda/acura market.

Anyway, this guy has over 800 feedbacks with 99.9% positive.
Why do people keep bringing up ebay? Isn't that link to a regular online store? Where'd you see his ebay feedback? Am I missing something again? lol
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Why do people keep bringing up ebay? Isn't that link to a regular online store? Where'd you see his ebay feedback? Am I missing something again? lol
That link is to his website, but you can see that it's copied from an ebay auction. He sells all of his stuff on ebay too so you can look up the company's name. That's his username. He seems to be a legit seller so that's just me. As a general rule, I try not to give into fear spread on the internet. I prefer to do my own research.
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That link is to his website, but you can see that it's copied from an ebay auction. He sells all of his stuff on ebay too so you can look up the company's name. That's his username. He seems to be a legit seller so that's just me. As a general rule, I try not to give into fear spread on the internet. I prefer to do my own research.
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I'm not sure if dealing with evo-r is such a good thing. Check out the above...there are many on this forum that have had problems with them.
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I'm not sure if dealing with evo-r is such a good thing. Check out the above...there are many on this forum that have had problems with them.
I've actualy already seen that thread through searching. If I have problems it looks like all you have to do is come on here and make a thread complaining about their service and they will respond pretty quickly lol
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That link is to his website, but you can see that it's copied from an ebay auction. He sells all of his stuff on ebay too so you can look up the company's name. That's his username. He seems to be a legit seller so that's just me. As a general rule, I try not to give into fear spread on the internet. I prefer to do my own research.
Really? Is that why they aren't on record as a Tein authorized dealer? Is that why the only Tein products he sells are the ones in question? Is that why Tein is in the middle of taking legal action against people making ONLY fake S-techs?

I'm trying to help another forum member, I HAVE done my research and no offense if you are a big enough jack-*** to spend 30k on a car then cheap out 40-50 bucks on a set of lowering springs you have no business owning this car to begin with. Honda-tech awaits people like you.
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If there is a chance that you might get fake stuff. it is the BEST to deal with Authorize dealer. Especially with the S-techs, there are MAD fake S-techs out there. even the Rx-8 one. The worst is that it might just break out of nowhere and cause you an accident, or even death, Hey, it can happen !

and 100 something bux is too cheap for it

Avoid it, Get it from real source.
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*Sigh*... I'll have to take a 15-20% hit on canceling the order or returning them.. and then pay more to get them from the manufacturer... but I'd rather be out 1 or 2 hundred bucks than have to drive around every day thinking "Are those springs going to hold up? Was it a good idea to cut corners on something like this?"

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