NineT4

Supposedly attaching this device to your fuel line creates a better burn of your fuel, offering lower emissions, better mileage, and increased performance. I was wondering if there was anyone out there has used this or anything like it.

http://www.avnzk.org/default.asp

Tamas

iTrader: (1)

27% increase... yeah right. You'd think if this was possible, ALL cars came with it from the factory.

By the way, saying "up to 27%" also includes the final result of savings which will be exactly - 0% :D

This thread will be closed or moved anyway :D

poison123

I got some swamp land in florida if you wana buy it.

IWANTMYRX8

Do NOT buy that....I've never seen that, but It's horse sh*t...Save your money

Zoom2X

If a snap on item like this really worked as claimed, the auto manufacterers would have them on the production line about 30 mins after the results were verified. In short these type of items do not work.

Fuel Saver Pro's add says it all.

"Below are just some of the incredible results obtained by industry experts while testing the Fuel Saver."

The word incredible means "not credible", in other words not believeable. So take their add at face value and don't believe it.

Searchs for the testing labs named in the add turned up negitive. I seriously doubt they even exist. A search on Commercial News for the date range specified in the add also had a negitive result.

eccles

Ah, doncha just love snake oil salesmen?
I guess the Barnum Principal keeps them in business.

NineT4

Amazing how quick some of you are to whip out the blow torch. I'm in the same boat as you guys though, extrememly sceptical. Why do you think I made the post in the first place. Funny thing though was that no one actually answered my question. The question was if someone had used this or a similar product. Everyone just jumped on it and assumed it wouldn't work. The funny thing is I don't expect it to work, but am almost willing to try it just because. They do have a 90 day return policy. Wouldn't it be too funny if this was as easy a fix as it appears.

Gord96BRG

There's no getting around the laws of science. People here with engineering and mechanical backgrounds know that the claims are BS, because they are physically (chemically, etc.) impossible.

I don't have to jump off a cliff to know that I can't fly. I don't have to try magic fuel enhancers, splitfire sparkplugs, nology plug wires, slik50 oil additives, to know that the claims are bogus or trickily worded to make them sound like they're great products while in fact they are just deceptive.

There's been hoax scams like this for centuries - the term 'snake oil' comes from travelling salesmen selling bogus miracle cure medicines called snake oil! This device is crap. Save your money (I bet if you read the fine print, there's restocking charges, or big shipping and handling charges, etc.)

Regards,
Gordon

Doctorr

You have Florida swamp land?

Whereabouts? We might be neighbors!........
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doc

eccles

Yep, there's an $18 restocking fee, and naturally the $6.95 shipping/handling fee is non-refundable. So even when you discover that it's complete crap, you're still out $24.95 plus whatever it costs you to return it.

BTW, for another good example of pseudo-science, check out this description from the folks that bring you the "FUELMiser", which claims to be unique and patented, yet appears to do exactly the same thing as the "Fuel Saver Pro." Hope the "Fuel Saver Pro" folks are paying royalties!

eccles

A little more research turned up this page on the FTC's site. It lists many "gas saving" devices that have been tested by the EPA, and indicates which showed any benefit. Although the Fuel Saver Pro is not explicitly listed, guess what, none of the fuel line devices returned any improvement at all.

eccles

Dude, that's a little harsh.

MrWigggles

"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

NineT4

Poison123. You're right. I should return my car. Thanks for helping out man. I was just too stupid to see that was the answer the whole time.

At least one person came up with some tangible evidence that proved it was pretty much a crock. While the rest of you sat by your own lack of information and threw flames. Its a mob mentality, and unfortunarely some of you have nothing better to do with your days then recycle what other people said. Thank god for the QUOTE feature.

Meanwhile, in what will probably be a fruitless effort, I am going to try and get information from both Ford Motor Company (who supposedly was at least somewhat involved in testing) and mfg of the product themselves to see if they have any actual information to support their claims.

In the meantime I guess I will just have to hope I can figure out how to operate my car. Which one is the gas pedal?

P.S. You meant principle not principal.

mikeb

you guys are beating a dead dog

eccles

Actually, I was thinking of the famous line generally attributed to P.T. Barnum:
"There's a sucker born every minute."
(Though this site suggests that that attribution is inaccurate.)

(And yes, I meant principle. )

Gord96BRG

Lack of information? Dude, I spent 4 years getting a mechanical engineering degree. 8 hours a day, for 4 years, learning the science behind stuff like this. I'm not going to do an engineering analysis for you to prove this crap device is a scam. If you don't have the knowledge to figure this out yourself, then either spend 4 years in university yourself or trust someone who isn't trying to separate you from your hard-earned money (ie me and the others on this forum). You asked, we answered. Sorry if you don't like the answer. Go ahead, blow your dough, I don't really care!

Regards,
Gordon

NineT4

Whatever, doesn't matter. All I was saying was that you didn't provide any reason why I should listen to what you had to say versus what they had to say. If you have the knowledge and understanding due to studying for a mechanical engineering degree, hats off to you. I honestly don't have the mechanical background which is why I made this post. Its not that I don't like your answers, its the way they are delivered. Sure, great some of you have mechanical degrees and I don't. If in your mind that makes me stupid. Well, you have a lot of growing up to do.

Eccles found the FTC tests stating that these types of devices were ****. Well, thanks eccles you actually delivered. While the rest of you, and yes Gord96BRG this includes you, decided to act holier than thou with your "I know this doesn't work, because I have big *****" type statements. Well, I may not know engines or mechanical engineering, and that may make me naive and vulnerable to **** products like this, that is exactly why I came here to ask if anyone had information. I know what I do and don't know, and fortunately am not too proud to ask for help. Which is surprising considering the answers I get from you ********.

poison123

NineT4 you really are a friggin idiot. A Ten year old could have figured out this was a scam.

NineT4

What is wrong with you people. I honestly believe that you have nothing better to do than shoot other people down. Obviously I thought there was something wrong with it, and that is why I posted the question here in the first place. If I thought it was legit, I would have just bought the damn thing and then told all of you how good it worked. I'll tell you what though, you people sure know how to make someone feel welcome.

Gord96BRG

You didn't ask why the device wouldn't work. In fact, when told that it was useless, you got all pissy and defensive and posted:

You complained that you didn't want opinions, you only wanted to hear if someone had actually tried it. Thus my response "I don't have to jump off a cliff to know that I can't fly". We're not assuming it doesn't work, we know it doesn't work, without having to try it. You challenged that, you should expect to get a hard time in return.

Sorry - if you can't take a bit of ribbing without getting so defensive, then you're not making yourself very welcome-able. But hey!, welcome anyways!

Regards,
Gordon

savedsol

Ahem.... on a related note. Top Fuel (a respected tuner in Japan) has created the Power Neo. Looks the similar. It's a bunch of magnets. According to an article in Super Street they HAVE dynoed it and it provided a consitent 6hp boost on an RSX-S.
http://takakaira.com/asp/template.as...%3Fa%5Dd%40%5F

JBurer

I especially loved this, in the Q&A section.

"Can the FUEL SAVER give an extra boost?
Yes, customers world wide have reported higher performance on lower octane fuel. Gives an extra 10% more horsepower."

*Laughs* They're not making a false statement.... using lower octane fuel does give one a performance boost.

~John

eccles

Quite apart from the major manufacturers, if any of these things actually worked, you can bet your *** that they'd already be in use by Formula 1 teams and the like. Those folks spend megabucks every year in engine development, and if they could get a 10% gain by slapping a couple of magnets on the fuel lines, they'd have them already and be spending the money on magnet research!

While it's nice to be able to find a government report, Occam's Razor is a pretty good tool, too.

said7

Go get this thing it works awesome!
I got this and the Tornado (TM) Air system and my ride blazes.

Is that what you really want to hear?