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Claybar is a product you would use on a pristine, unwaxed surface. It will lift impurities out of the paint instead of scrubbing them off like wax or polishing compunds.
It's not a difficult process, but tedious and time consuming. Meguairs, Mothers, Zaino, and other companies offer this type of product. As you're using the claybar on the painted surface, you need to keep it lubricated to avoid damaging the paint. Each will come with instructions, and you should follow them exactly. The reason for doing this on a new car is to remove material from the paint like rail dust and sea salt that gets on the car during transport. Dealer prep will not typically take care of this kind of thing. What you're left with afterwards should be a very smooth, very clean surface ready to receive polish and wax. Without the claybar treatment, you end up sealing the impurities right next to the paint. And they can't be removed until the car is stripped of wax and polish again.
You're best bet: As soon as possible post delivery, wash the car BY HAND with a good quality wash mitt. Use dishwashing detergent (I orefer Dawn) to remove any wax or polish previously applied; ***only use dish detergent if you intend to strip the wax off your car.*** Otherwise, always use a car wash specific soap. Make sure to rinse the mitt before putting it back into your wash water. This will prevent alot of the dirt from getting back onto your car, potentially scratching the surface. Carefully dry the car with a chamois (I like an artificial one called "The Absorber"), or thick pile towels to lift any remaining dirt. After the car is dry, you should park it out of the sun to let the paint cool, preferably in a garage. Check for water spots - and carefully take care of these with a damp cloth and dry the area immediately.
Once the paint cools, you begin with the claybar following the instructions for that specific product. After the claybar treatment, apply polish and wax. Be prepared to spend a full day with this whole process (even longer with Zaino), but the results should be excellent.
Excellent post, red_base. The only thing I would like to add to that is that I like to wash the car again after claying it. This will get rid of any residue from the lubricant used while claying the car.
Originally posted by m477 Excellent post, red_base. The only thing I would like to add to that is that I like to wash the car again after claying it. This will get rid of any residue from the lubricant used while claying the car.
Yes, that is correct, and even recommended by Zaino (for example). For the 2nd washing, however DO use a proper car wash.
Originally posted by red_base 95 Claybar is a product you would use on a pristine, unwaxed surface. It will lift impurities out of the paint instead of scrubbing them off like wax or polishing compunds.
...not so. claybars are abrasive as well, just to a far lesser extent than a polish: but yes, it's the softness of the clay which "picks up" the dirt and whatnot.
Originally posted by Hercules I spent $80 last week... what the hell did you buy?!?!? :0
Z-6 Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray 1 $9.95
Z-7 Show Car Wash 2 $15.90
Z-10 Leather in a Bottle 1 $10.95
Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss 1 $12.95
314 Custom Polish Applicator 5 $12.50
ZKIT-1 Total Protection Show Car Kit 1 $84.70
I bought extra Z-7 and Z-6 so I don't have to order again in a few months. I also ordered some fieldcrest towels that they suggested from www.royalvelvet.com (the official fieldcrest/cannon website) at $12 a pop. Sadly I didn't see www.fieldcrestcannonoutlet.com that sells irregulars for about $5 each instead. Since its for the car, I can't imagine the towels being irregulars can make a difference, so if you order I'd order from there.
2004 Sunlight Silver / Black/Red
The Mother's site has an excellent overview for detailing a car. Mostly common sense stuff, but good pointers to keep in mind.
pmac - $200!?!?!? Did you buy distributor rights in the process :D
It is easy to spend a lot very quickly, and $200 of Zaino products will go a long, long way. Be sure to follow their instructions very carefully. A big portion of the Zaino process is a chemical combination/curing process that yields terrific results. That's why you apply it in steps, allowing cure time for each step.
Regardless of the products you use, take your time and follow the instructions. Repairing damage done while cleaning can be very time consuming and costly. Keep in mind, dark colors show damage (swirl marks, scratches and chips) more readily, so those with black and blue cars take care.
Originally posted by red_base 95 After the claybar treatment, apply polish and wax.
I thought the purpose of using the clay bar is to NOT use polish. If you've clay barred all the rough spots, and the paint surface feels smooth, why would you use polish on a new car surface? The polish will take off a small amount of paint surface, as I understand it. I don't see any reason to polish unless there's visible spots in the surface that are dirty, scratched, rough, or weathered. If it's clean and smooth to the touch, just wax it.
Previously: 2004 Winning Blue GT, 6 Speed
Currently: 2009 Aurora Blue Mica R3
This confusion stems from the fact that the word polish is used to decscribe products that are abrasive, a true polish and non abrasive like Zaino. Zaino really is a synthetic polymer paint sealant. So the idea is use whatever you need to get your paint in the best shape and THEN lock that in with Zaino.
Originally posted by EverRX8 Wash it with dishwashing detergent (dawn)
wash it again with regular car wash detergent
apply Z-2 from Zaino ( is this last step called waxing or polishing?)
great to see soemone else uses dish detergent to wash their cars :D
to speed it up, i would clay while the car is wet and soapy. I almost F Up the first time because my car is dry and i was only using the squirt lube
I made sure my dealer did NOT wash my car. I made him promise to back it off the truck and not touch it again until I arrived. I helped them strip off the protective plastic, and I didn't let it out of my sight again until I drove it home. I sat there & watched the mechanic do the pre-delivery inspection and rode along for his test-drive.
I brought it home, washed with Dawn, claybarred (new paint, freshly washed, the claybar was filthy when I was done!) , washed again, then applied one coat of Z5 and one coat of Z2 (both with ZFX). The car was stunning.
That was in early December and I'm up to 10 coats now. So far I have not had one parking-lot ding (knock on wood) and I firmly believe that one reason is how shiny it is! People really notice how well you keep your car and act accordingly. I had one guy say he didn't WANT to park anywhere near it!
The problem with Zaino is that it just looks so freaking good that you want to keep it looking perfect so you wash it more often. Then you put on another coat and see how much better it looks and you want to put on another coat. Before long you realize you're a Zaino junky and you start to look like this: