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I haven't run with the CZ1 yet but I will soon. The word is my CZ1 should ship this week.
I just raced Atco last night stock (see my other post) to get some baseline runs. I will be very curious to see how much the CZ1 improves my times. The only mod I have now is an exhaust.
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Originally posted by SPD-FC i have raced at our 1/8 mile track down here best i could get was a 9.7 with just a exhaust
lol u can tell everyone u have a 9 second car man
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1/8mile 9.7 hehe
i think even my modded civic can do that. hoping the rx-8 has more potential in the near future. i dun need any rockets.... but a 13 1/4mile is what i'd like on the rx-8.
considering canzoomer1, lighter rims/wheels, and new exausts (maybe air filter upgrades, but not convinced). dun want any turbo/super chargers or nething that drastic. is it possible to go around the low 13s without modding the engine?
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Originally posted by Yanje 1/8mile 9.7 hehe
i think even my modded civic can do that. hoping the rx-8 has more potential in the near future. i dun need any rockets.... but a 13 1/4mile is what i'd like on the rx-8.
considering canzoomer1, lighter rims/wheels, and new exausts (maybe air filter upgrades, but not convinced). dun want any turbo/super chargers or nething that drastic. is it possible to go around the low 13s without modding the engine?
Low 13s are going to be almost impossible without major work and or forced induction.
i think you gotta drop alot in your civic to get it their
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Originally posted by IkeWRX Low 13s are going to be almost impossible without major work and or forced induction.
With Exhaust, Intake, UD Pulleys, and a lightweight flywheel I think it is possible. But the cost would be close to 3000$ if you were not going to do the work yourself.
i don't get it. how much hp does rx-8 pull to the rear wheel?
my '01 celica gt-s can run 14.7 stock in 1/4 mile.
i'm looking for a faster car, but i didn't know rx-8 was that slow
You keep saying "can run". Just curious, have you run it? Is it an auto or a manual?
To keep on track.. I ran 15.7ish 1/4 mile without CZ (my first time at the track) .. I was told.. becase we didnt get slips, it was one of those race wars type things at a track. I'd like to go back and see how the CZ 1.1 does.. I know it's faster than a stock 8 in 3rd and 4th because of some pulls from a roll I did with a stock 8.. Maybe I'll do the next test and tune and get slips with CZ on and off.
Also, the car could probably run better than 14.5 if we could keep the wheels from hopping like a kindergarden class at a potatoe sack competition. There's power there. I just don't think the suspension just isn't tuned to be a drag car.
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Originally posted by JKonquer i don't get it. how much hp does rx-8 pull to the rear wheel?
my '01 celica gt-s can run 14.7 stock in 1/4 mile.
i'm looking for a faster car, but i didn't know rx-8 was that slow
Originally posted by RotorMotor04 With Exhaust, Intake, UD Pulleys, and a lightweight flywheel I think it is possible. But the cost would be close to 3000$ if you were not going to do the work yourself.
You've got to be kidding. It seems like the average RX8 runs low 15's. Do you really think that exhaust, intake, pulleys and flywheel will reduce your time by 2 seconds?
First off, the flywheel will add very little to the power at the wheels. I've also seen very little gain with exhaust and intake. With the mods you list you're looking at maybe 20-30 whp gain. Certainly not the 100 whp that will be needed to get you to low 13's.
The only way to low 13's is through some sort of power adder: NOS, Supercharger, or Turbocharger.
Originally posted by JKonquer i don't get it. how much hp does rx-8 pull to the rear wheel?
my '01 celica gt-s can run 14.7 stock in 1/4 mile.
i'm looking for a faster car, but i didn't know rx-8 was that slow
180-190 HP to the rear wheels is common.
This ends up sounding like a cop out everytime I hear it, but this is not a drag car. At least not in its current form. This is more of an auto-x type car. Take it out on a curvy road and you'll see it shine.
Now, so that that doesn't come out like a cop out: yes, it's lacking some power that I wish it had. The Mazda projected 250 bhp would be nice to have. But, at least we know we can get to 250 stock w/ the right ECU settings.
Now, we just need Mazda to settle on what the stock ECU should be like so Canzoomer doesn't have to upgrade his piggy-back unit so often.
Originally posted by robertdot 180-190 HP to the rear wheels is common.
This ends up sounding like a cop out everytime I hear it, but this is not a drag car. At least not in its current form. This is more of an auto-x type car. Take it out on a curvy road and you'll see it shine.
Now, so that that doesn't come out like a cop out: yes, it's lacking some power that I wish it had. The Mazda projected 250 bhp would be nice to have. But, at least we know we can get to 250 stock w/ the right ECU settings.
Now, we just need Mazda to settle on what the stock ECU should be like so Canzoomer doesn't have to upgrade his piggy-back unit so often.
I agree this is not a drag car. and if i wanted a drag car i wouldnt have bought the rx-8. however, even tho it is not a drag car, i'd still wanna be able to do some impressive 1/4 miles with it if possible. it don't have to be the best or anywhere near the best, but i really thought it was possible to do low 13's (13.1-13.5) without major work done. not looking at NOS, turbo/super chargers. flywheels, clutch, intake, exaust, ecu upgrades, racing wheels, better tires are basically my options.
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Originally posted by AbusiveWombat You've got to be kidding. It seems like the average RX8 runs low 15's. Do you really think that exhaust, intake, pulleys and flywheel will reduce your time by 2 seconds?
First off, the flywheel will add very little to the power at the wheels. I've also seen very little gain with exhaust and intake. With the mods you list you're looking at maybe 20-30 whp gain. Certainly not the 100 whp that will be needed to get you to low 13's.
The only way to low 13's is through some sort of power adder: NOS, Supercharger, or Turbocharger.
i've seen quite alot of time slips of 1/4 mile in the high 14's for the 8 6speed. but i guess most average 8 do only run low 15's. i havent managed to go under 15 yet(but i respect my clutch and do not wish to damage it or ruin it)
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The 1/8 mile track is too short with the low torque of the 8 to get to it's peak acceleration.
A violent drop of the clutch should get you a little faster though.
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Originally posted by RotorMotor04 Well, that is funny since I have seen numerous time slips in the mid to low 14's, so no i am not kidding.
Ok, on this site the ONLY mid and low slips for a stock RX8 is Judge Ito's. All the other slips are 14.8+ with the majority around 15.3. Now granted, this is a very small pool of slips so if you have a better resource for 1/4 mile times I would love to see it.
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Originally posted by RotorMotor04 Your are right the flywheel does not add much HP, but gets the engine into its power band much quicker, DUH!!!
In gear acceleration is determined by your horsepower. A lightened flywheel may add somewhere around 5-8hp. So you will get to the powerband just as fast as if you had added 5-8hp. 5-8hp will not get you there "much" quicker.
Originally posted by AbusiveWombat In gear acceleration is determined by your horsepower. A lightened flywheel may add somewhere around 5-8hp. So you will get to the powerband just as fast as if you had added 5-8hp. 5-8hp will not get you there "much" quicker.
Having personal experience with lightened flywheels I can tell you that they do much more than just add a few ponies. Obviously a flywheel that weighs 10 and 1/2 punds lighter is going to spin up quicker. Revving faster is the key, and that is what a lightweight flywheel does.
Originally posted by RotorMotor04 Having personal experience with lightened flywheels I can tell you that they do much more than just add a few ponies. Obviously a flywheel that weighs 10 and 1/2 punds lighter is going to spin up quicker. Revving faster is the key, and that is what a lightweight flywheel does.
I don't doubt that it can spin up quicker with the reduction of mass. It will also spin down faster with the reduction of momentum. But when in gear, your acceleration is determined by weight and horsepower. There are a few other factors like wind resistence but for the most part its weight and horsepower.
A lightened flywheel yields a small increase in horsepower. That means you get a small increase in acceleration. You can not get a large increase in acceleration with a small increase in horsepower unless you reduce overall weight by a significant %. 10-15lbs is not significant.
Originally posted by RotorMotor04 Having personal experience with lightened flywheels I can tell you that they do much more than just add a few ponies. Obviously a flywheel that weighs 10 and 1/2 punds lighter is going to spin up quicker. Revving faster is the key, and that is what a lightweight flywheel does.
They don't add ponies...the don't lose the existing ones instead -drivetrain loss.
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