DoubleBlack8

Category: Engine - Complete Motors
Price: $1
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part Fits (you may select multiples): Series I
Location (US State/Canada/Int): AL
Item Condition: Used

housings: $240 each
irons: $150 each
rotors: $150 each
E shaft:$90
anything else that comes on my new engine and i already have will be for sale also. prices are for bare components. some parts have not been removed in the pics
ALL PARTS ARE SOLD

DoubleBlack8

more pics.. prices are for the bare components.. some items have not been removed in the pics,

DoubleBlack8

and the rest of the pics not sure why they are rotated. they are normal on my phone and lap top

DoubleBlack8

possible trades on other parts or accessories will be considered as well. just let me know

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

I'll offer $575 shipped on the rotor housings and eshaft to 37814. I might also take the front rotor for another 150 shipped.

All your pics of the rotor housing chrome are kind of blurry and dim, so it's hard to be sure what condition they are really in.

Also sent you a text as requested.

srx600guy

would you want to sell the main bolt and spring (the one's that goes into the end of the eccentric shaft ?

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

I wound up getting the whole core from him. A lot of it turned out to be in much rougher condition than the pics showed. The rotor housings are basically junk. Im cleaning up the irons now to see what shape they are really in.

DoubleBlack8

your partner looked them over when he met me and the one housing he said was not going to be usable. (That's the one I told you that had crome peeling and flake on the edges when we talked in Feb... If you still have your inbox messages). Not sure what was wrong with the rest of the parts though? And I cleaned the parts up already, the best I could anyway. I'm sorry you're disappointed.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

To be honest man, the rotor housings don't even look like the ones in the pic above. I guess this is a case where the pics were *just* blurry enough, and the angles taken *just* right, to hide all the major imperfections. If I had paid actual cash for these I would be pretty pissed off. One has massive chunks of chrome missing and is obviously not useful for anything except a paperweight. You knew the chrome chunks were gone because I can tell you've been cleaning the area with a wire brush. The other housing has damage and scratches from apex seal fragments flying around, and even has a chunk broken off of the outer casting that retains the outer coolant seal (not sure how that happened, had to be due to mishandling). Neither is any good at all. There is not enough chrome left to resurface the one with apex seal damage, and of course you can't put back missing chunks of chrome half an inch wide.

Both rotors are beat up pretty bad. You cleaned them with a wire brush. The oil control rings were left in and you ran the wire brush right across them. That basically ruined them because it dulls out the sealing surface (about like running a wire brush across a knife sideways then expecting it to cut). You can tell where the rotor tips were damaged from apex seal fragments, and you've been filing on the rotor tips trying to open them back up.

The eshaft had some brown heat marks on the main journals which should doctor up but are undesirable.

Both main bearings are badly worn. Kind of expected that, though.

I haven't taken a close look at the irons yet.

Between the rough condition of the rotors and rotor housings and you making my guy drive over an hour past the agreed upon destination (which turns into over 2 hours round trip extra, meaning I have to pay him more gas and more hourly time while you still paid the same delivery fee), I probably lost money on this deal in the end.

DoubleBlack8

those housings are the same as the pic not sure if you can see the numbers on them in the pic to verify but they are the only ones i have. not like i had rotors sitting around since this is the first rotary that i have ever owned. again the one rotor i already told you about before and i pointed it out to your partner, who told me it would not be usable in a rebuild. he then said that you turn them into a display piece that you sale so i told him i would buy one from you. which i still intend to do because i keep my word. as far as taking a wire brush and a file to the housings and rotors,, that is simply not true. i used very fine grain wet /dry sand paper to remove the carbon from the rotors which took forever cause the sand paper was so fine. but i most certainly did not use a wire brush or file of any kind. furthermore, making your guy drive an hour extra each way is absurd. Yes on the map, he actually passes my town on the interstate but i know these roads here and trust me it saves time. i met him right were he gets off the interstate so he didnt have to try and find his way through these country back roads that dont even have road signs for the most part. either way this was discussed before he even left out by me and you and me and him. not to mention...we got blasted with a massive thunder storm and flash flood and the crazy way that you thought he should go was totally flooded out and the road was closed.. and is still closed because the bridge was damaged in the flodding. and it was not an extra hour each way..you are just saying whatever you can to make me look bad or something. i had already told you before hand, i left the rings in the rotors they had never been removed. only the outher rings were removed. i still have every text between me and you and the messages through this site as well. you get on here and accuse me of taking pics at "just" the right angle to rip you off. i wounder why i have never got a text or anything from you with your complaints, instead i log on here and see you blasting me on the forums without even coming to me? i am not a crook or dishonest person i believe you assume everyone is though. thats why you gave me 50 dollars extra to drive to the post office and convert the cash to money orders because you didnt even trust your own guy to bring you the cash,, i still have those text too btw. speaking of your partner or employee or whatever. he was very nice and so was his girl, wish more people were as nice as they were. oh yea,, and a chunk missing from from an outer casting? not sure what thats all about as no chunks were missing from anything.. you even had sarcasm with me in text when i was trying to text you and make sure on what all to keep and what to send to you because i had never done this before and every question i ask u had some half wit remark to show how ignorant i was when it came to selling core engine parts,, but whatever, i still replied in a non offensive manner. again im very sorry that you are disappointed with the parts. i wanted to just buy your engine and pay for shipping company to get it here but you got kinda upset when i wasn't able to get a ride to you and bring my parts there. so u came up with the idea to send your guy here. if you would have just sold me the engine and me paid to ship it here you wouldn't be upset and blasting me on the forums. like i said this is the first time i have ever dealt with rotary anything, i thought the parts looked good and the one part that i thought didnt look good and usable is the one i told you about before and pointed out to your partner. either way accuse me of wire brushes and files and chunks missing, thats fine.. i know in my heart i did not try to deceive you or rip you off. and as soon as my brother in laws road is re opened i will send you the two flat bearings and that one ring and spring that i forgot there when we took it apart.

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

DoubleBlack8

9k that is so blurry i cant make it out... was that the intention?

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

I'm sorry that posting factual information equates in your mind to "blasting you on the forums".

I will let the pics speak for themselves.

Chunk missing from a rotor housing. Even if the chrome in the housing was good, this would make it junk.



One rotor housing with massive chrome chunks missing. This is not really visible in the pics above...either due to chance, or purpose. Come on man, really, you were trying to sell this for $240 cash? What if joe blow here on the forum had bought these to rebuild their engine with?






The other housing with obvious damage from broken apex seals (and chatter, missing chrome). Again, you were trying to sell this for $240 cash?

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

The irons were somewhat beat up. I have already cleaned them up some, filed the rough corners down, and hand lapped the faces to try and doctor those up a bit. It's obvious you were throwing them around or handling them roughly, and also hitting them with sandpaper or a wire brush.

I had to file these dents off.




You can see some damage to each face, and scratches from sanding/brushing.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

The eshaft has some heat marks that I'll have to try and clean up before I figure out if it's usable or not.




DEFINITELY NOT WIRE BRUSHED OR SANDED:




The rotors are BEAT UP. IT is obvious they've been handled rough, and filed or sanded on.






You can see where the groove has been filed on!



Look at this. This rotor has been dropped, or hit against something hard. The side seal groove is BENT. The rotor is junk because of this.




More damage.



DEFINITELY NOT FILED ON:




Here you can faintly see the outline of a cutoff seal impressed into the rotor side. So it was either dropped on a loose cutoff seal or something.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

Just to recap, I have $750 in the above parts. Truth be told I got a front cover, a set of stat gears, and some bolts that were really in good reusable/sellable condition. The irons advertised for $450 are C grade even after I've doctored them up. One rotor advertised for $150 is junk and the other advertised for 150 is D grade. The eshaft advertised for $90 is in C condition. Both rotor housings advertised for $480 are junk.

There, now I guess you can say I've "blasted you on the forum" for posting facts.

DoubleBlack8

the one with the big chrome chip missing. I TOLD YOU ABOUT ALREADY. read your damn messages and post those pics.. the one housing i thought was good. but whatever i ask 240 cause thats what other people was asking and they needed resurfaced. like i said im new to this stuff this is my first rotary engine. but WTF your guy look at everything went over all the parts before money changed hands.... if the housings are junk then im sorry.. you knew one was already because i told you it had chips and chrome wearing away.. remember that convo? you wanted me to come to tennessee and build an addition on your house for the engine..... the rest of your comments are straight up lies.. i never used a wire brush or file on ANYTHING, EVER.. you lie about me making your guy drive extra hour each way... sop if thats your idea of posting facts then you are a special kind of stupid. and i STILL dont know where the chunk came from on that one housing.. that wasnt me and that wasnt there.. please remember all i wanted to do was buy your engine and pay to ship it here,,, you kept on with your whole gung-ho story how no one wants to sell you their parts and then you are dead in the water.. this is probably why. i knew i should have went with someone else when buying my engine.

im finished arguing with you. say what you want about me, i dgaf. i have all the text and messages to back up everything i said, so you try and have yourself a nice day sir

DoubleBlack8

sorry i dont follow your grading scale

Mod Edit: Remainder of post is personally targeted insults and removed. Take this as a warning.

DoubleBlack8

those rotors sure got enough rust on them for someone that used a wire brush on them. anyone can go ruff up some old parts and post pics

DoubleBlack8

one last thing you are posting pics of something with orange or red paint.. clearly those are not mine as anyone can see from the very first post nothing i had was painted in any way... and your "Doctoring" is the problem if youre trying to figure out how all those scratches got there imo.. but nice try on taking pics of parts that wasnt even mine... im not sure how u even have a good name on this site... now im starting to believe the people that say you try to get stuff you dont deserve. and try to scam..

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

Yeah, you're right. It's definitely not because I'm trying to clean up the parts I got from you (and other parts to substitute for the junk ones you gave me) to put together another engine with. Definitely not.

Yeah, you're right. I have built over 600 rotary engines but I don't know what I am doing and I put those sanding scratches there. You never sanded or filed on any of these parts. I hammered the dents, scratches, and abrasions into them. I put the apex dents into the rotor housing and the rotor. I put the cutoff seal dent in the side of that rotor. I banged that rotor into some other metal part and ruined a side seal slot, making it junk. I put the black heat marks on the eshaft.

...all just so that I could post pics here on an internet forum to ruin the good name you've developed for yourself here during your 21 post history, because I have nothing better to do. Makes sense...you caught me.

Because I know what I am talking about and I do exactly what I say I will do. Not everyone does.

lulz, please feel free to point out these posts so that I can respond to them.

In the meantime, I am calling bullshit.

I've posted proof after proof, you've done nothing but talk.

Oh...and I determined today that neither rotor was reusable even after I tried to doctor up the damage. They've just been mishandled too badly. Virtually every seal slot on them is damaged or out of spec in some way.

One more thing...you left two rubber insulators in the intermediate iron from your primary fuel injectors. You need to reinstall those on the injectors when reassembling the rebuild, or it won't run right (and no doubt you'd try to blame me for that screwup of yours, too). You're welcome.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

Also, you keep going on about previous conversations we've had, and that I should have known I was buying/trading for junk parts because you had told me at some previous point.

Sorry, I don't really recall all the conversations I have. You do realize that I talk to about a dozen people PER WEEK from all over the world, about their various engine/car situations, right? there is NO WAY I can remember it all or keep it straight.

When you posted these parts for sale on the forum, I had NO IDEA who you were. I just saw that a dude was posting parts for sale that he claimed were good, and I needed to buy them.

When you contacted me to inquire about purchasing my engine, I still had NO IDEA that we had previously had a detailed discussion about an engine in the past...not until you mentioned it. And even then I did not recall any of the details. I just took your word for it.

So either way you are admitting to having intent to screw someone. You claim you told me weeks ago that your parts were bad and not good enough to rebuild with. If that is the case, why were you trying to sell known bad parts (to you) on the forum for several hundred dollars?

If that is not the case and you thought they were good and that is why you were trying to sell them here on the forum, why are you now claiming that you already told me they were bad?

My only mistake here was trusting that you were selling good parts and sending my employee to make the exchange instead of doing it personally. If I had come up in person I would have refused to take most of them in trade and you would have either paid full price for my engine and kept your junk, or you would have negotiated a lower price in trade for the few parts that were still good. I do admit a small amount of fault in that decision not to handle this in person, however that in no way releases you from your obligation to advertise condition accurately which you failed to do completely.

In light of what I've found out about the rotors and rotor housings, if you were honorable and as innocent as you claim, you would have offered to take them back and return some of what I paid/traded you for them.

Finally, why are you so unhappy that a deal conceived of on the forum, where you advertised these parts to begin with, and where you pm'd me initially weeks ago, is now being discussed...ON THE FORUM?

TeamRX8

iTrader: (25)

All that stuff is junk. Why would you even ask $240 each for housings missing huge chunks of chrome? I've sold pristine housings for that price, but would be embarrased to even charge $1 for what you sold here.

On the same tilt, somebody goes there in person and makes a deal, junk or not, they bought it. Sorry it worked out that way.

DoubleBlack8

number 1 im not upset this is ON the forum i made the statement that you didnt even come to me with an issue...
number 2. those parts are not even the ones i sent except the housing with the big chipped spot. "that you knew about"
number 3. those irons are red painted and its old paint too so dont act like you painted the housings i sent you then took pics. i dont think those rotors are mine either unless you left them in the rain so they would rust . after all you did say they had a wire brush taken to them right?? lol and finally....lmao asking for your money back,, isnt this the point of your whole charade? i tell you what man you lied about so much even right down to saying i changed the agreed upon meeting place and cost you more shipping price. you charged me 160 shipping. so i paid that.. not to mention they drove even further north after we met to go to the mall cause thats where the closest olive gardens was thats another 15 miles north so wtfe.. if anyone here wants to see proof of everything im saying just let me know. anyone in their right mind can tell those pics you put on here are not the parts i sent you.. hell they arent even the same color that crap was red mine is clearly unpainted... go try and scam someone else..with parts they didnt send i know... maybe this time use blue irons or something really noticeable.. real smart there bud. those arent the parts i sent and if thats what you received.... well then id start looking at who all had access to your parts.. one last thing you said you didnt remember me or our previous convo even after i straight up reminded you in the very first texts.... how many people do you try to get to build an addition onto your house anyway? sorry pal im not buying what your selling...

DoubleBlack8

no i didnt leave the rubber insulators in the iron, i am looking at them in a ziplock baggy where they have been since i removed them..