zoom44

it will be rwd weigh less than a mx-5 have over 200bhp go like stink and handle better than any of its direct competitors which will be the other those other lower priced coupes due out over the next 5 years or so. itll be here as early as the 2008 MY.

musclecarconvrt

I still love my 52k mile '04 for the same reasons I bought it 2 years ago. It's a dream to drive. It's smooth as silk and corners and stops on a dime. I've got two muscle cars for brute force and both of them would put me in the nearest ditch if I tried to run around corners in them the way my beautiful RX8 does. Yeah, we would all like another 50-75 horses from the factory but hey, we've got a completely unique car that has so much more value than top power bragging rights. So, what am I going to do when Mazda does come out with a factory turbo or a bigger NA? I'll hit the aftermarket for it. I love the car just like it is.

Renesis_8

I predict Mazda will go smaller for more speed. Completely opposite of what the near future market will be like, with the Supra, GTR, etc etc, they are all going bigger with more horsepower.
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raspyrx7

Well IMO its only worth $20 to $$25g. And I doubt I'd ever buy one used. After talking to a renowned rotary guy thats had a peak at some damaged Renesis motors I have serious skepticism of them past 80k miles until I see a typical lifetime number come about. Mazda still has a few major issues with materials wear and how the rest of the motor holds together in the event of a seal breaking. Mazda refuses to listen to anything that US rotary building gods have to say.

zoom44

ive had a peak at some myself and we have pics on the forum if you are talking corner seal. refuse to listen to anything is a ridiculous over the top statement - they take the info they can use. damage caused by seal failure is what it is. the position of the ports causes a seal to round and round instead of out the port. the port needs to be that way for emissions. no side port no rotary on the arket.

these NA engines will last the same or more than any other NA rotary. i paid 30 for mine and and would do it again with no qualms - the next time we meet up somewhere you should take a ride in my car. its worth every penny. id buy a used one in a heartbeat- as long as i was familiar with the previous owner. long before id buy a FC or FD nowadays...

cjkim

you sound like Jeremy Clarkson

rotary crazy

thats what the mazda guys said at sevenstock they wanted a rotary power elise.

I was a little pesimistic about the rotarys future mainly from hearing coments made in this forum but after reading the rotarynews article and making a couple of phone calls, let me tell you the future its looking really bright.

remember the renesis was made with limited funds and time an is a great engine, imagine what mazda is going to make now that they made the rotary theyr #1 priority

rotary crazy

you have to understan that there are a lot of diferent proyects and diferent aproches to each one, nothing its final until the signatures of the big fishes are in paper, and even then they can change theyr minds.

to give you and example there is some serius talk in mazda japan of instead of making a refreh to go ahead and launch the new rx-8 model for 2008 as a 2009 model, but this will most likley not hapen since the refresh is almost done, and thats the time frame for the lauch of the kabura tipe car.

I can tell you this, the rotary R&D deparment at mazda japan is burning the midnight oil right now!

savedsol

I'll remember to make a bumper sticker that says as much so others can read it while passing me on the track.

Seriously, tell me what separates it from an Evo or STi for the same money as an optioned out 8. Worse mileage, slower and outhandled. Hmmmmm.

rotary crazy

its a unique car not a riced out econobox with a large turbo on it.

Tirminyl

If I hit the lottery I would invest in Mazda's RR&D team. Actually, I would seperate them and make them the Cosworth of Rotary engines. A company that does nothing but develope the Rotary with an unlimited budget 24X365.

Even though it would be nice to know what Mazda has planned, I do kinda like they are tight lipped about things.

rotary crazy

there is so much rumor coming from japan rigt now that most dont make sense to me.

I keep hearing that there is another rotary car based on the rx-8 platfor that is been develop apart from the kabura type car, this could be a new model or its just simply the next gen rx-8, another intresting info I got is that they have been able to get 22% more hp out of the 13b renesis, but dont know how they dit it and that this is the engine that is going into the ms8.

but back on topic if mazda its going to introduce a refresh its got to be for the 07 year they need to injet some energy into the rx-8.

zoom44

see thats what im hearing too- i posted it earlier very hesitantly- there's one other car on the platform we havent even seen yet. plus the MS8 is close to ready. they want to spring the othe rcar on people the way they sprung the CX-7 it gets everybody more excited

rotary crazy

yes I saw it, thats why I posted it, dont want to get any one in trouble (specially my source since he is a mazda employe) and when i saw that you post it i figure it was ok.

zoom44

i dont know if its "OK" it wasnt even a definite - sort of like but like ahint wink wink "i know about this other car but i cant say" kind of thing. but with a very positive tone. it works aparently cause im all excited about it now that you heard it too

Tirminyl

Now I can't wait to see what they have in store for us. Thanks to your contacts for passing along this info. Need to get me one of those.

alfy29

both you and rotary crazy know how to torture ppl lol. any how, is there any way you can tell us all about this classified info by using moris code?

rotary crazy

want to hear something more intresting?

a really good contact told me mazda was gearing up for 20b production but he told me it was only as crate racing engine, then I faund out if you want a 20b racing engine from mazda you can order it right now but it cost 30,000, so it can be two things mazda is making a limited production to lower cost for racers or maybe it has something to do with the 3erd model

zoom44

no im serious it was a hint with a wink like thing. it was awhile ago- i kind of dismissed as not worth mentioning until i heard more- but just thought id put it in that other post to throw it out there. im actually glad to hear someone else say it too. i mean it could just be a concept they are toying with ya know? kind of like backround noise right now- its there but you cant make out what it is.

rotary crazy

im really exited! the info thats coming from mazda its really good, like the turn that the "coupe" its taking i heard it was going to be a bit larger than the kabura yet weight less than an mx-5 the goal its 9 lbs for each hp.

I hope its not all hot air

Renesis_8

And that gets us excited as well
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Renesis_8

Haha, hope that'd be "The sports car you never saw coming" if it suprises us like the CX-7
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BlueRenesis82

what is this moris code that you speak of?

Japan8

zoom44 and rotary crazy.... that's some crazy **** you guys are talking about. I like it. Too bad it'll all be too late for me to make it my next car purchase. Oh well... I can at least drool over them...

brillo

I wonder if that would be 22% over the current USDM tune or not. I say that b/c with direct injection, a leaner mixture and better breathing (maybe a new intermediate housing with equal size exhaust ports, electric water pump... I'd believe that number NA.

I'm all for more NA, its more fun to drive, its more reliable, its cheaper, and it runs cooler.

you realize if you read the RX8 book how much of a shoe string budget Mazda had when developing the current Renesis, to be honest I can't believe they pulled it off. If they had some real development $$$ and a case for putting the engine in multiple cars, I bet we'd have a scarey Renesis2