U. N. O.

Ok there has been a lot of talk about the power loss in our 8' s according to a couple of people who have Dyno them. Some say it is ormal, some say no way for the money/expectation. SO ere is a poll to see a % of which side of the balance people wll go for.

IF and ONLY IF this power loss problem is real, so real that mazda itself recognizes it as they did with the fiasco with their miatas,

1. Would U keep the 8 accepting the 40+ hp loss from advertise and a 'incentive customer satisfaction plan' or what ever other crap mazda throus out as they did with the miata if there is no solution to that power loss

OR

2. Would U leave it back at the dealer if mazda offers to buy them back, take the money and buy something else...


I believe on paying for something i feel i get the best for my buck, so i would vote, LEAVE IT . lets face it $30K is a lot of money and there are other good performace cars out there for that money(more or less)with probably better gas milage too. Now i LOVE the 8 but...

edit: feel free to leave comments

eccles

My decision would depend on whether the SCCA reclassed the car. At 247hp, it's going to be fun competing against the S2000's; at 210hp, forget it.

seikx8

I would keep it base on the fact that when I first put my deposit on this car, I have no clue how much this rotary HP & TQ will be like. Now I have owned it, I love it. If it is in fact a deficit in power and Mazda is offering an incentive? That would be great and as many people have speculated, the engine has potential

Hercules

Personally if there *is* a power deficit and Mazda acknowledges it... I'll just make them reduce my lease payment, that's all.

I enjoy the car, I am happy with the power, so why would I give it up even if it's 'rated' at some other number? Still drives the same way to me. If Mazda decided to give me a nice incentive to keep it then I would; though I'd bitch and moan just to make sure I got a nice lower payment

RX-Nut

For a buyback, how do they determine the $ you get? I would think you'd get the full price you paid. Like a refund no? But what do I know..

U. N. O.

exactly right. thats what they did with the miatas. They bought them back at the same price that you signed and paid for., if ia mnot mistaken..

zoom44

umm did they pay off the loans and give you back whatever cash you put down plus the value of your trade in?

U. N. O.

no, they based upon that they would buy them back at the same $ u signed for.

Also think about it, you spend $30K for the car and then would pay for the mods to make it to the #s they promised, how much would you spend? 4K for a complete turbo kit if we are lucky, thats $34k, then exaust, intake, manifold, plus, plus.. sorry too much money for 250+hp and 20mpg IMO if the car really ends up having 200 hp only .

U. N. O.

i am not sure into that details but i would think that they make it so that it eds up being death even btw u and mazda for the screw up, i would think that, that is better rather than a law suit for false advertisement!

Quick_lude

Another thread about this.. sigh..
First of all, it's NOT a 40hp "loss", it's about 20-25. We have enough rumours and speculations here already, we don't need erronous numbers either. I've seen people talk on other boards about this 40hp "deficit".. it's NOT 40hp.

I would probably keep it unless Mazda's compensation was not substantial enough to my liking.

neit_jnf

I'd keep it and mod it :D

MrWigggles

Exactly, It isn't 40HP AND it is only above 6000 RPM that the car starts to lose power.

It is almost 0% loss at 6000RPM, about 5% loss at 7250. and about 10% loss at 8500.

It is about 25HP loss at the peak and maybe a 20HP loss average in the upper RPM range (6500-9500) where you would be for a hardcore 0-60 launch.

-Mr. Wigggles

TJRX8

I would sell it back for sure.












(then buy a new one with zero miles...shhhh )

BillK

I agree. I will buy a different new sports car with a rotary engine.

Whoops.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, the rotary is what makes the car for me; I wouldn't even give the 8 a second look if it had a conventional engine under the hood...

Skyline Maniac

Assuming it's a real issue - I would lose faith in Mazda and not return to their dealership for a long long time. If they can't get the power ratings claim right, then the reliability (Renesis), safety claims also become very questionable in my mind.

Sputnik

A poll on this has already been done this week.

---jps