bazooki

Okay, I am new to this forum and this has likely come up before or it might just be a dumb question but why has the Mazda engineering team not come up with a oil injection system like Yamaha did for their two stroke motorcycles in the Yamalube system? I used to own an RZ350 and you would just fill up the reservoir and monitor that periodically as you manufactured the blue smoke. Since I just did my first oil level check yesterday I was wondering why there is no oil reservoir and system for injection with this oil consuming engine? Also, as its been pointed out in many reviews, the effort required to check the oil on this car is not without its pains and that dipstick just plain sucks....I was checking at dusk and could barely read that freakin wire POS.

fuztupnz

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search SOHN adapter

You should also read the "new and potential owners" thread and the rest of the stickies. Good info all of them.

RIWWP

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The "why" is because of stupid lazy consumers that would see it as more of a hassle to stay on top of 2 types and reservoirs of oil rather than 1. It's a decision that goes against what is "correct" from an engineering perspective.


You can remedy that particular decision however, per the SOHN adapter noted by Fuz.

Supernaut6

RIWWP is 100% correct. People are lame as hell.

TeamRX8

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Because the logo on teh trunk says MAZDA and not YAMAHA

8 Maniac

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It's not that much effort to check the oil level. Pop hood, remove engine cover, pull out dipstick. The dipstick isn't in the most convenient location, though it's really only a pain when it's dark out and you can't see where to put it back in.

What year is your car? They updated the dipstick at some point and it's easier to read. You might just need to get that updated dipstick.

I didn't even consider that reason. People already dislike the idea of keeping up with the normal oil level, so I can't imagine how people would react if they had to deal with 2. That especially is the case because it's a car. I think a lot more motorcyclists would be willing to deal with that while car owners would complain about the inconvenience.

9krpmrx8

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**** that reminds me that I wanted to buy the updated dipstick.

Mindgarden

I just keep learning .... read read read. I do have a hard time reading the levels on the dipstick and had no idea there was an updated dipstick. Thanks again.

monchie

Updated dipstick?

bazooki

My car is a 2007...I can't imagine this is the updated dipstick as there couldn't possibly be one that is worse? I will certainly buy the new version when I find it. True that motorcyclists tend to be more likely to be gearheads and don't mind doing the extras that a lot of car drivers would turn their backs on but on a quirky car like the RX-8 I would think they might have added an oil system after the first few years in order to make maintenance more convenient. I also agree that checking the oil isn't HARD but it also isnt' EASY and it really should be given that it is a task that the engineers are expecting the owners to do on a very regular basis and its required to avoid damaging the engine. If you have to make the dipstick 6 inches longer to make it more accessible then do it and if you can check it without removing the engine cover then do that too.

WhiteDealershipRice

Makes Perfect sense from an engineering/ customer service point of view, but evry car out there is a compromise between what the designers want to make, & what the corporate "bean counters" are willing to pay to have made.

Since the tooling to make the Dipstick on its PITA location is already made, there is little to be gained (from the bean counter's point of view) in spending the money to re-design such a "minor" aspect of the car, as it will not generate more purchasing "Impact" to their sales figures.

Terefore, that's what the "aftermarket" is there for.

fuztupnz

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A factory oil injection system would be a nightmare for Mazda. Think of how many cartarded owners there are out there that don't check or change their oil as often as they should. Hell there's more than a fair share on this board (not meant to offend, everyone has to start somewhere) that don't do this. Now give them an extra reservoir to check and fill. On top of that it would be filled with 2 stroke. Now add that it has to be high end 2 stroke. This is like handing over the keys to an out of control train that's running out of tracks.

Most people don't even know what 2 stroke oil is, let alone the kind they should use or where to buy it. Expecting the average consumer to keep track of it is asking for a catastrophe.

We are just a small sample of rx-8 owners here on this board. There are way more average joes driving them than enthusiasts, even though we don't want to believe it. I would also bet that a majority of our members are here because they're look ing for a solution to a problem, not just to hang out and learn, socialize and help others.

bazooki

When I think about it a bit more I have to say you are absolutely right. What would make things more simple for enthusiasts would make things more complex for the average joe and Mazda certainly doesn't want to make this ownership experience any more complex than it already is.