Mikro

The 350z will easily outperform the RX-8.

Burnout441

i aint gonna doubt you bro, but we aint seen the Rx-8 in action, but im gettin one and my friends put a down payment on one, so ill find out.

NOTA V6

Well we know where to find the RX-8 specs to compare. Where are the 350Z's stats? At least we can do some armchair comparisons before the magazines all do it for us.

Anyone have a website with 350Z stats handy?

veloceracing

Ok, I have seen this can of worms over and over and over and over again in the chats. Let me tell you what I know. I dont know the latests, but the last I heard Nissan couldnt massage the 280 HP out of the motor in the 350Z ,an estimated 260 IMO, and the car will weigh in at a 3150 lbs. Thats 400 lbs heavier than the RX8, and only ten HP. One thing that the 350Z may have over the RX8 is the TQ number. But that TQ number could mean didly considering that these are sports cars not 1320 racers. The RX8 seems more like a go cart then the 350Z in the handling department due to its 50:50 weight distribution and the wheel base and the lighter car and the engines position. The 350Z has an aftermarket following already planned for it and more specs are available (due in fact to the early release, and Nissan does have a preorder system in place) but look to the RX8 for an equal following as the sport car becomes more and more rare in the Sub 30 category. Also based on the talk it has generated elsewhere the RENESIS motor has caught many an eye.

JGard18

mikro=troll?

but when you say outperform. Where? at the drag strip? possibly. on the track? no damn way...

KrisA

Wow. Thanks for your insightfull comments. You truely are a worthwhile addition to the board.

NOTA V6

Looks like our first troll guys. One post, trying to be inflammatory. Smells like a troll to me.

Mikro

Nissan 350z Specs:

Weight: 3150 lbs
Weight Dist.: 52/48
Power: 280 hp
Torque: 263 lb-ft

JGard18

numbers aren't totally official.

besides...at 3150lbs., it's a boat. Heh, the WRX would keep up with it...

Johnny

Can you be more ignorant? Your comparing a car with stats to another car without any known stats except for its name, if you came here to be a troll you are in the wrong forum kid.

Burnout441

alright, Ive met many people that alwaystry to get technical and talk about the stats of ther car against mine, and i walked all over them. Ya follow me, to me stats are only numbers, you either put up or shut up. I mean they can give all th details they want, and I just got to say that I have a 3-rotor and they can't compare to it. So forget the stats and we'll wait and see.

veloceracing

Does your 3 rotor come standard with bad english and inflamatory replies? One more post like that and I ban you.

Burnout441

take it easy bro, there was nothing inflamatory about that i was just givin my opinion on stats

NOTA V6

And touting the invincibility of your 3 rotor.

Okay, no one should ever mod their car again, because nothing holds a candle to your 3 rotor.

Riiiiiight... Although I do think veloceracing must have misunderstood what you were saying, 'cause I don't think that a little testosterone bravado is grounds for banning.

Okay, it's my turn to troll:

Give up guys! Your car that has not even been finalized by the manufacturer couldn't beet my four year olds bicycle in the 1/4 mile. Oh yeah, and rotaries are only good for mowing my lawn. :D

How was that? Who wants to troll next?

(Disclaimer and advance apology: Sorry if this is inflammatory. Just trying to diffuse the situation with a little humor)

NOTA V6

Oh, and stats are the only way to judge a car that has not been produced and tested. I mentioned stats to begin with for that reason, and to take the burn off the troll's comments.

The 350Z's stats don't compare to the RX-8, and the RX-8 is a family car. I can't wait to do a little trolling of my own on the 350Z forum... LOL@ :D

toneytigre

i think it'll be a good race. we'll just have to wait and see.

Burnout441

i couldnt agree more bro, like I said before... stats are just numbers, the real proof comes when you race, so i agree wit you it will be a good race, but the RX-8 will win

coldasice

From what i've read, the 350z will be faster than the RX-8 stock. Where did you hear that they were only able to get 260hp out of the Z? Last I heard they were still aiming at 280-290 hp.

veloceracing

aiming is the key word. 280 is still a target, so look too see 280 at the MOST. My gues is 270-275 (close by all means). Keep in mind though that a rotary powerband is delicous.

fritts

Nissan has quoted a horsepower rating above 280 horses for the 350Z. With 260 ftlbs of torque. I seriously don't think 160 ftlbs of torque from the renesis engine will be able to keep up even with the powerband. The weight of the RX-8 I thought was quoted at 2900 lbs in Car and Driver so that's not far off the 3150 of the 350Z. Street the 350Z will win, Track would be interesting but with the low torque numbers I still would give it to the 350Z.

fritts

Sorry I meant road and track not car and driver.

veloceracing

I was looking in that Issue of RandT today when I saw something that caught my eye. If you look at the article about the Panoz Esperante you'll see that they list two weights, one that is the curb weight and one that is the weight as tested and the weight as tested is about 180-190lbs off from the Curb weight (the driver parked his *** in it). The RX8 has a difference of 180-190 LBS from the 2750 we all expect and were hoping for. That means that weight listed is most likey with driver, and that means you have to add about 180-190 LBS to the weight of the 350Z. So figure 3340-3350LBS for that car. And this is where the 30 additional "target" hp are gonna come in. And yes the TQ band is gonna effect this battle, if the RX8 can pull its Richard Simmons light *** for a long time and the 350Z can only launch its Drew Carey heavy *** with a small amount of the RPM range. then you have a good race. I can just hear it now,

"The NISSAN GETS A GOOD JUMP OFF THE LINE BUT THE MAZDA IS MAKING ITS WEIGH BACK, THEY ARE NECK AND NECK AT THE 660 MARK AND THE MAZDA IS NOT LETTING UP AND THE NISSAN IS FALLING BEHIND AND THE RX8 OUT RUNS THE 350Z BY .1 SECONDS!"

coldasice

I think you are being a little too biased. Both the cars are great but stock vs. stock the 350z will take it to school. The 350z will be running 13's in the quarter mile and the RX8 will be running 14's if the specs stay the same as they are now. Torque is very important, that's why a stock mustang gt will take the honda s2000.

RX - 8

i agree with veloceracing, weight does make a HUGE differance. The Z is gonna need that extra hp to keep up with the lightweight rx8...otherwise the z will be left behind in the dust!

coldasice

Then why does a stock GT Mustang easily walk the S2000 even though it is heavier by far? It is because it has more torque.