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Old 11-25-2006, 09:16 PM   #1
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Progress on the custom system :) PICS!

Hello All

Spent the last few days working out my system here, the doors are a BITCH, ive spent the last two days working on them. Keep in mind I'm a lazy *** and dont have access to proper tools (except basic handtools, dremel, and other common things from walmart) and im doing this all in a hotel parking lot where I live due to work.

Anyway i have a few questions but will ask after the pics

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In this picture the only really snug good place the crossover for the boston speakers will fit is IN the door. The support beams right there go at an angle to each other and the crossover WEDGES in there perfectly, as a test ive been driving around with it wedged in there but not hooked up and it stays put, I was wondering your opinion on this? I realize the inside of the door gets wet (and yes it does clear the window glass) my idea is to wrap the whole thing in Seran Wrap after its all connected to make sure if it gets a few drops/splashes with water it wont hurt it? Your thoughts are appreciated. (yes I did try to fit the crossover in the stock bose amp place but wont fit/clear

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Here is the template/baffle I made out of very thick Lexan - drilling the holes wasnt the problem just cutting out the center circle for the speaker was a BITCH with the dremel.

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Looking pretty professional if I do say so myself... yeahh the edges are rough etc etc but once the door is back together you wont ever see it so its 100% function and no form.

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Here is where I'd like some input too - realizing the back of the door gets wet as hell i wrapped the speaker in some all weather plastic insulator stuff. I LOOKEd for the sheets of the Neoprene foam rubber stuff, but all i could find was this all weather thing at walmart that was originally designed to keep water/leaves/ice out of ones window airconditioning unit. Seems like it will work pretty well? dont you think? Comments are always appreciatead

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Just another shot of the speaker setup. FYI kiddies - DONT ever buy a cordless dremel. I swear to god i'd be 3 or 4 hours ahead of where I'm at now if i hadnt had to wait for the damn dremel to charge up over and over.

The tweeters are going where the stock ones are at - they fit in perfectly!


Any thoughts/suggestions/tips? thanks!

Jeff
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:03 PM   #2
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i could be wrong but wouldnt putting a plastic bag over a speaker be a bad idea? i mean wouldn't that cause an annoying rustling sound from the speaker movement? yes i know it shouldn't be as far as a sub of course but still constant movement???
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:08 PM   #3
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I thought about that - and before i put everything back in the door im going to test it. This is the only thing I could find that would seal out moisture/water etc that gets in the door. I REALLY wanted some of that neoprene foam stuff but couldnt find it in big sheets


oh to clairify - this isnt a "plastic bag" walmart type - i.e. super thin, this actually has a little bit of bulk to it so i dont know if that will help or not?

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Old 11-26-2006, 02:44 AM   #5
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Old 11-26-2006, 07:38 AM   #6
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looks like it's comin along man. One comment though...

i'd imagine that puttnig that stuff around your speaker is gonna devastatingly damper your sound, not to mention cause crinkles and other distortion you won't care for. Since a speaker functions on the principles of moving air to create sound frequencies, physics tells you that limiting the avialable air to move will cause strain on the speakers output and quality.

Someone can call me out on this if they like, because i'm not a physics major...but in my rough understanding of how i've been taught to install speakers, that would indeed interfere.

The rest of the install looks like it's comin a long nicely. I must say...bravo for being brave enough to venture into the aftermarker stereo system that involves a factory crossover. I consider myself experienced in car audio installtion, and I don't even mess with much of those because of the complexity that's often entailed. kudos.
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Excellent....

Great job so far!

Like the others, I would be concerned with the 'kazoo' effect of the rear cover.

How about a heavy cover that is open at the bottm? Just enough cover to protect, but angled down, and open....

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looks like it's comin along man. One comment though...

i'd imagine that puttnig that stuff around your speaker is gonna devastatingly damper your sound, not to mention cause crinkles and other distortion you won't care for. Since a speaker functions on the principles of moving air to create sound frequencies, physics tells you that limiting the avialable air to move will cause strain on the speakers output and quality.

Someone can call me out on this if they like, because i'm not a physics major...but in my rough understanding of how i've been taught to install speakers, that would indeed interfere.

The rest of the install looks like it's comin a long nicely. I must say...bravo for being brave enough to venture into the aftermarker stereo system that involves a factory crossover. I consider myself experienced in car audio installtion, and I don't even mess with much of those because of the complexity that's often entailed. kudos.
Thanks for your input - I'm hoping to progress enough today where I can hookup the front left passenger side for at least a test today - I know im going slow as hell on this project but I'd rather go slow and get it right then whip it together and fuckup. I must say this is my first 100% self car audio installation, and after reading thru every manual for the hardware I have, installing a crossover for each speaker set isnt that hard at all. There isnt much configuration of settings just an extra step in wiring really .

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StealthTL: your idea is exactly what Mazda did with the factory bose system - here is a pic of the 9" woofer that come outta the door, you can see it has the neoprene foam rubber stuff just like you gave an idea for. I'm thinking about just tearing this **** off the 9" Bose speaker and adapting it to use it on my 6.5" lexan baffle. Oh yes the image isnt photochopped at all either, all the white is just my bed sheet - i thought it was interesting how the flash made it look like the speaker was floating in heaven or something
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or you could just pic up some baffles from someplace like crutchfield. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Pq2pxXz...sp?g=762&avf=N
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I used the Crutchfield baffles as well, and I must admit that they worked better than I thought they would. They are just stiff enough to keep them from moving and they give the speaker the protection it needs. Looks just like the material on your old bose speaker.
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or you could just pic up some baffles from someplace like crutchfield. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Pq2pxXz...sp?g=762&avf=N
wow, don't we audiophiles all looks stupid with our pants down and our thumbs up our butts.

didn't even know they existed...
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