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Old 02-07-2007, 07:27 AM
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New Engine due to seal lubrication being inadequate:

I took my 2004 RX-8 in for the 30,000 mile service and re-calls for plugs and to make sure the car adheres to U.S. emission standards. I picked the car up and noticed a low RPM lag that was not there before. I took the car back to the dealer and several days later met with the service technician. I was told that the oil being supplied to the engine seals was not receiving adequate oil to lubricate the seals. My engine is being replaced under warranty.
Has anyone else experienced this? I was told mine was the first to have an engine change and that they anticipate there will be more.
Now the big questions is the new engine going to properly lubricate the engine seals or is this something that will re-occur???
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:40 AM
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USE THE DAMN SEARCH BUTTON UP THERE

but I have a feeling is that your dealer did something wrong during the recall. cuz b4 u took it in everything works right ? sadly most dealership are nothing but fuxk-ups.
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You could be right as the car has run like a bandido since I have had it. I am fanatical about oil changes and alway change under 3000 miles. The dealer also told me that my K&N Air Filter is not good for the rotary???
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Another helpful post. ( nycgps )
Bear, with luck it will only take one replacement engine to get your 8 working.
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Yes I know my post is helpful, thank you tard.

PaPaBear, What kind of K&N filter you have ? drop in or typhoon.

but either one is ok for Rotary, see, you have a bullshit dealership right there. I hope they know what they're doing.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Yes I know my post is helpful, thank you tard.

PaPaBear, What kind of K&N filter you have ? drop in or typhoon.

but either one is ok for Rotary, see, you have a bullshit dealership right there. I hope they know what they're doing.
Actually the have been quite a few cars that loose a MAF or get CEL for the MAF when running the K&N filters. So the dealer was not that far off. It usually takes around 60K miles, and the MAF can not be cleaned or fixed, as the oil from the filter gets into the epoxy of the sensor.

I'd only use a K&N in there at your own risk.

Seen it now on multiple Toyotas (which use the same exact MAF as our cars) and a bunch of BMWs (which use a Bosch version of the same Nippondenso design).
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I guess it depends on alot of factors, there are alot of people using it, clean it every couple K or so for 100K+ miles without any problems. Like my father's Quest GXE, got it at 95, start using K&N drop in since 2001 , 90K miles since then no problem. Clean about every 5-7K miles.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
I guess it depends on alot of factors, there are alot of people using it, clean it every couple K or so for 100K+ miles without any problems. Like my father's Quest GXE, got it at 95, start using K&N drop in since 2001 , 90K miles since then no problem. Clean about every 5-7K miles.
K&N filters work better if you let them get dirty. There is no need to clean a K&N filter in less than 20K miles (50K miles if you drive in city conditions).

In fact if you are cleaning a K&N every 5K miles, you are throwing away money and allowing more dirt into the engine.

And I have used K&N filters for years... I just won't use them on a resistor based MAF. They are fine to use on the flapper, and plunger based air flow meters.

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Originally Posted by Icemark
...Seen it now on multiple Toyotas (which use the same exact MAF as our cars) and a bunch of BMWs (which use a Bosch version of the same Nippondenso design).
Do you have any more info on these vehicles that use the "exact MAF as our cars"? I would be interested if there is a price difference between them?

Thanks!
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this is not even a search thing.. the recall was out there.. you should have got it in the mail.... the dealer did you good by letting you know it happended...

if you need more info. search recall.

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the code would be what, and the maf cannot be cleaned??? the oil gets into the epoxy of the sensor?????

no epoxy near the maf sensor?

beers

Originally Posted by Icemark
Actually the have been quite a few cars that loose a MAF or get CEL for the MAF when running the K&N filters. So the dealer was not that far off. It usually takes around 60K miles, and the MAF can not be cleaned or fixed, as the oil from the filter gets into the epoxy of the sensor.

I'd only use a K&N in there at your own risk.

Seen it now on multiple Toyotas (which use the same exact MAF as our cars) and a bunch of BMWs (which use a Bosch version of the same Nippondenso design).
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^^I think he is talking about that *epoxy/clear glue* thinggy that seals the TEMP sensor on the MAF. Not the 2 thin wires(maf) itself.
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I have drop in K&N filter and thx for all the in-put.
I was going to try to run at Homested with the Chin Group but now am paranoid until I am convinced my old spinner will be okay. Tired of off-on-ramp and any bend I can find fun and am anxious to get my baby on a legal track.
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I haven't had any problem cleaning the MAF sensor on my Lexus. The Nippondenso MAF uses a heated wire to measure airflow. No matter what kind of air filter you use, tiny particles will get thru. When those particles hit the hot MAF wire, they stick to it. As they build up, the MAF stops responding because a layer of fried particles forms on the hot wire. As long as there is nothing else wrong, you can clean the MAF and go about your business.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
^^I think he is talking about that *epoxy/clear glue* thinggy that seals the TEMP sensor on the MAF. Not the 2 thin wires(maf) itself.

yea,

that was kinda my point..

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