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Old 05-06-2010, 10:16 AM
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New engine

To say that I am a little excited would be the under statement of a lifetime. I have been experiencing warm start issues with my 8 for a little over a year now. The car has 65,000 miles on it.

I put it in the shop last August for the same issue and they replaced the plugs, wires , and coils. They also did a compression test and said the compression was a little low but with in tolerance. I believe the numbers were hovering around mid sixes. (6.5, 6.4, 6.3, etc.) The new wires, plugs, and coils seemed to temporarily correct the issue. As soon as the temperture started warming up (maybe 4 weeks ago) I started experiencing the same issues.

I took it back into Mazda and told them that a.) the car was performing horrible on hot days and b.) the car was hard to start when a brought it up to normal operating temperature, shut it off for a minute or two and attempted to restart it. For instance shutting off the car to run into a convenience store after the car was warmed up and attempting to restart it. I went into the dealership with a booklet of information I had gathered. I wanted to show the dealer right up front that I was aware of the service bulletins and the issues with the rotary engine.

The service manager and head mechanic were great. I have a k&N Typhoon after market intake and just bought a Greddy Spectrum Elite exhaust. The head mechanic said this was not an issue with getting the engine replaced if need be. He also recomended that I get a light speed fly wheel. He said and I quote "You will be side ways when exiting our driveway with a light-weight flywheel."

It was a pleasure to personnally meet someone who obviously knows our cars inside and out. He has been a mechanic with Mazda for over 20 years now. I got the phone call about an hour ago with the good news. (I'm getting a new engine) The bad news is they wont have the engine for 10-14 days and they are telling me all in all I wont have the car back for about 3 - 4 weeks. Not a problem for me because this is not my daily driver its just my toy. This has been a great start to my day!!!
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Did you go to Wayne?

If not then where did you go?
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No, I live in South Jersey about 10 minutes outside Philadelphia. I took the car to Mazda Turnersville. Good guys!!!
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good stuff man make sure you break it in nicely
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Originally Posted by The Reverend
good stuff man make sure you break it in nicely
Forgive me for not researching before asking the question. But is there a procedure for breaking in a new engine posted within the forum? I'm trying to wrap up things here at work.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Yeah, there are a few good ones out there.
A few (and not nearly enough).
Charlie you are all too right. I was going to the only other dealership local to me. Mazda Maple Shade and hoestly I knew more about the car than their service people. And I'm not claiming to be an expert by any strech of the word.
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this is from racing beat for engine break in


- For the first 1000 miles do not accelerate under full throttle.
- During the first 1000 miles do not exceed 4000 RPM.
- For miles 1000-2000, expand the RPM upwards - but do not accelerate at full throttle.
- Over 2000 miles, full throttle and high RPM is acceptable.
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Congrats! I got a new engine at about 65k too.
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Originally Posted by The Reverend
this is from racing beat for engine break in


- For the first 1000 miles do not accelerate under full throttle.
- During the first 1000 miles do not exceed 4000 RPM.
- For miles 1000-2000, expand the RPM upwards - but do not accelerate at full throttle.
- Over 2000 miles, full throttle and high RPM is acceptable.
Awesome. Thanks for the info. I guess I'm going to have to make this my daily driver for a couple months once I get it back. Better yet I might be better off letting my girl drive it because I'm going to want to rip and tear right away. I don't think I'll be able to help myself.
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One other quick question guys. I just purchased a new Greddy Spectrum Elite SE exhaust. I should have it next week. There shouldn't be an issue with installing the new exhaust before I break in the engine should there? Its probably a stupid question but I always have lived by the motto that the stupid questions are those that were not asked.
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Originally Posted by newcastle
Congrats! I got a new engine at about 65k too.
How has the car ran since you got the new engine? And how many miles have you put on your new engine?
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Yeah, there are a few good ones out there.
A few (and not nearly enough).
+1 on that

Wish we had the dealer reputation on the east coast like the west coast..
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Doesn't Mazda give you a loaner for something like this?
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congrats, that's great news.
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Originally Posted by The Reverend
this is from racing beat for engine break in


- For the first 1000 miles do not accelerate under full throttle.
- During the first 1000 miles do not exceed 4000 RPM.
- For miles 1000-2000, expand the RPM upwards - but do not accelerate at full throttle.
- Over 2000 miles, full throttle and high RPM is acceptable.
crap i break in mine using the mototune method...
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Originally Posted by ZippySLC
Doesn't Mazda give you a loaner for something like this?
I'm not sure how all dealers operate but Mazda Turnersville did offer me a loaner. I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee that I use for work so I didn't need a loaner. I work on a Navy base in their engineering department so I have decals and stuff on my truck to get through the gates. Getting a loaner and using that for work would just be a hassle.
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Week one down with no 8. About three weeks to go. Hopefully!!!! Im stock piling parts. I have an exhaust and aeroflares waiting to be installed.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Would it help if there were a BHR-certified and trained network of shops who we pre-qualified to do performance installations? BHR would still handle engine builds and Cobb AP tunes ourselves but help shops to be better-informed on what works and what does not with regard to the RX-8.

If they were to have issues/questions on things we would help them along.

We are already working on it.
That would definitely be a bonus. When do you think you'll be up and running out this way?
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Would it help if there were a BHR-certified and trained network of shops who we pre-qualified to do performance installations? BHR would still handle engine builds and Cobb AP tunes ourselves but help shops to be better-informed on what works and what does not with regard to the RX-8.

If they were to have issues/questions on things we would help them along.

We are already working on it.
God Yes make it happen! (and find one on Long Island!)
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I'm already pre-qualified/certified to install the BHR Ignition System ..... well, on my own '8.

Great idea tho' Ray. Massachusetts/New England please.
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Jack on everyone. Doesn't bother me in the least. Interesting topic. It would be nice to have someone vouch for a shop before taking your car there and finding out there idiots the hard way.
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Synaptic3 is a highly regarded outfit in New England (NH) and is a fellow vendor/supporter here. BHR relationship with them would be excellent!
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Hmmmmm...... Great idea.
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Spoke with the dealership. The new engine is being installed this week. I will have the car by weeks end. Its been a long couple weeks. Can't wait!
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Well I finally got my car back on Wednesday. What a difference. The car starts like immediately with barely any cranking. The vibration is gone thanks to the new motor mounts. I had no idea of how this car should feel being I bought it used. Obviously the motor mounts were shot when I bought the car. The dealer also put on my GReddy SE exhaust. It sounds awesome. A+++ rating to Turnersville Mazda in South Jersey. They even went ahead and detailed the car inside and out for me being that they had it so long.
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