titaniumgr3y

Hey,

Can anyone of you tell us the differences for the three regional versions?

I heard that the European version Type S produces 170kW and on the other hand the japanese 184kW and American 177kW.

Is that true?

What are the other differences? (i am not talking about the options)

alnielsen

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My educated guess would be emissions standards for the different regions.

Yusik

Mazda stop sells RX8 in Russia last year.

As I remember it was two version here: full power 6MT 235hp, 5AT 180HP. Its a European versions, no special standarts here.

titaniumgr3y

emissions, ok, but, my 8 is made in Japan with them standards for 184kW.

95 octane gasoline would give my 8 the 184kW or should i use the 100 octane ?

zoom44

japanese 6speed manual has a different 3rd gear than everyone else. they also have/had a 5speed manual available on the 4port engine which was available in markets other than the US and CAnada. the power differences between similar engine /tranny configurations between the markets are mostly due to TESTING methods with minor differences due to emissions. everything else is the same(except seating position for the driver)

StealthTL

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There are just a few details different -
headlight washers in Europe, but no cruise,
standard lip spoiler in Europe, two oil coolers in the US etc.

S

nycgps

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I just wanna know whats the differents between the 3rd gear in Japan than US.

Share the Info please !!!!

dynamho

I believe 3rd gear is taller for Japanese models to match their stronger power curve.
In other words, we need to shift into 4th to complete a quarter mile sprint. JDM (and other Asian high output versions) can stay in third to complete the run.

I have proof lying around in this forum somewhere. Brettus started a thread on this a while back.

zoom44

Japan has 1.539 third gear US/Canada has 1.645 im not sure which the other markets (Aus/Europe etc) got

dbb

Australia has 1.645:1 as well ...

Jacques79

So the Japan version has 250HP just because they have better fuel? That's about +20HP! Just as powerful as an RX-7 but weighs 100 pounds more.

zoom44

omg here we go again. The Japanese car and the NA and Europe cars are rated to different standards. the actual power difference between them(6port to 6port) is less than 10hp. The Japan 250 is not bhp. its PS which is equivalent to about 247 bhp under the OLD SAE method. but if you tested it under the NEW SAE guidelines it would come out roughly the same as the US/Canada spec cars. European cars use DIN.

its the testing/report methods that are different- the power is mostly the same

Astral

Isn't the rear bumper shorter in Australia?

dynamho

If I'm not mistaken, the 5 mph bumper ordinance (front and back) is indigenous to the US of A, which is why you see cars like Subaru Legacy end up with a big fat lip here.

TeamRX8

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the PCM configurations are different, can't be interswapped

rotary crazy

some specs on my jdm RX-8

192 rwhp ( average of 6 pulls)
2880 lbs with 1/4 tank of fuel
only one oil cooler
3er is really long! compare to US spec

I have run side by side with us spec and my car is a little bit faster

andone

i got to say, that in europe not every country has the same standards and extras available.... but i dont know which where and where not...

stuartm

In the UK the high power has two oil coolers,lip spolier, no cruise, xenons, bose, 18" rims etc all as standard.

StealthTL

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One more time.....

Japan (or Europe) does not have "better" fuel.

Octane can be quoted (at least) three ways -
1-Research
2-Motor
3-Road

Research is an easy test, and the score reflects it - the gas I'm making today is 100.9 RON

Motor is a hotter/faster test, we only get a 90.3 MON, but since the Road Octane is what we sell by here, we get 95 "Octane" at the pump.

Just because you read "100 RON" on a Japanese or Australian pump, does not make it better.....

Also, the average car here can get by on 87 due to our altitude (3000'), and locally our "super" is only 93, at sea level you would need higher octanes.

S

titaniumgr3y

Guys, after a long research i came up with the following differences:

EU model produce less kW (170kW) to reduce CO2 emmissions.
The ECU is different on gas, gears are different.
Very similar with the US which is 177kW and still has the prob with the CO2 emmissions, US have the option i think for 2 oil coolers japanese dont.

Japanese produces 184kW, longer 3rd gear for the 400m drag, produces more CO2 emmisions than others and it has this power only with their fuel, but even though it has more power comparing to the other versions.

Do not take it wrong if i have mistakes.

RX-8Newb

The guy who was asking about gas, it is a different rating over there than here right? When i was in Germany Shell V-Power was 100 octane but was rated different and was only about 93 i think here for our octane rating. I cant remember which one is RON.


Edit* Oh wait someone already covered this. LOL

titaniumgr3y

lol, thats right.

Icemark

2.5 MPH bumpers in the States...the 5 MPH standard got dropped 10 years ago for fuel/weight allowances.

5 or 10 MPH bumpers in Canada though as I recall.

And you guys are missing that in the States and Europe the cat converter must last 100K miles.

In Japan it is half that.

That same flash that killed the power back on the 03/04 RX-8s was to maintain a cat for 100K miles. With the original ECU flash, the cat would have only lasted 50-75K miles and not 100K miles

NoTears316

The biggest difference I can tell from the different regions (pertaining to the game 'Risk') is that holding Asia, the player receives seven extra armies; for North America and Europe, five; for Africa, three are given; and for the continents of Australia and South America, two reinforcements are placed on the board.

Winfree

Is there a model with servo motors in the mirrors so that they close up against the car to reduce wind speed?

Is this a dealership add on?