How does your right foot work when you up shift on a pedal shifter 8?
#1
How does your right foot work when you up shift on a pedal shifter 8?
Well, I know I can just keep it on the throttle, but it seems not the best way to do up shift in terms of fast acceleration, how do you shift your pedal shifters? Do you release throttle and press right after you shift? Or is there a better way to do it?
#2
Rotary Evolution
what do you think is the best way?
rev match and don't pay attention to anyone who can't upshift without lifting, it just abuses the clutch and drivetrain for almost no benefit.
rev match and don't pay attention to anyone who can't upshift without lifting, it just abuses the clutch and drivetrain for almost no benefit.
#4
It took me a while to get a feel for it, but once I did it made a huge difference. Basically you figure out how long it takes to shift (paddle shifters on the steering wheel take longer to shift then the slap stick does). Once you know how long it takes, as soon as I shift I take my foot of the gas and as soon as the time passes and the gear engages, Im back down on the gas, same with down shifting. If you **** it up, you can tell as the car will jerk or shift hard.
#7
Here is what I found from random forum, guy was giving opinion on it:
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Hold foot on the gas and gear up -- unless it's an SMG I guess.
Who has an M3 that can answer the SMG part?
Quote from a BMW blog (http://edu.cqdx.gov.cn/bmw/48083.html)
1. you do nothing- you are holding the gas pedal during the shift - in this case the shift is the slowest. i can speculate why, but not the point
2. you slightly lift and hold it lifted for a split second right when you tug the shifter- this results most often than not in a very very slow shift which in lower s and d modes can be acompanied with an automated second throttle blip.. (on upshift). could be extremely slow...
3. you slightly lift and depress without delay right when you tug the shifter - this will result in a slightly faster shift, but comparable to the unassisted shift. i think most people fall in this category.
4. now- the good one - you tug the shifter, then when the shifter returns to its initial position (cant explain that split of a second in better way) THEN you lift and depress the accellerator in fluid motion.. almost like post-factum of the shift command. when done right this results in very quick and decisive shift. i am a good manual shifter and i can rip gears very fast, but when shifted that way the smg in s5 is as fast (if not faster) and s6 is impossible to duplicate.
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Hold foot on the gas and gear up -- unless it's an SMG I guess.
Who has an M3 that can answer the SMG part?
Quote from a BMW blog (http://edu.cqdx.gov.cn/bmw/48083.html)
1. you do nothing- you are holding the gas pedal during the shift - in this case the shift is the slowest. i can speculate why, but not the point
2. you slightly lift and hold it lifted for a split second right when you tug the shifter- this results most often than not in a very very slow shift which in lower s and d modes can be acompanied with an automated second throttle blip.. (on upshift). could be extremely slow...
3. you slightly lift and depress without delay right when you tug the shifter - this will result in a slightly faster shift, but comparable to the unassisted shift. i think most people fall in this category.
4. now- the good one - you tug the shifter, then when the shifter returns to its initial position (cant explain that split of a second in better way) THEN you lift and depress the accellerator in fluid motion.. almost like post-factum of the shift command. when done right this results in very quick and decisive shift. i am a good manual shifter and i can rip gears very fast, but when shifted that way the smg in s5 is as fast (if not faster) and s6 is impossible to duplicate.
#10
Rotary Evolution
i see, it's difficult to decipher some people.
i just drive it and shift where i would a manual car except forget about all the work in lifting during shifts. most current cars already incorporate power limiters during shifts to save the transmission anyways, so let the car figure it out. the 8 isn't nearly as dramatic as some cars in that respect, it doesn't limit power all that much during e-manual shifts.
i just drive it and shift where i would a manual car except forget about all the work in lifting during shifts. most current cars already incorporate power limiters during shifts to save the transmission anyways, so let the car figure it out. the 8 isn't nearly as dramatic as some cars in that respect, it doesn't limit power all that much during e-manual shifts.
Last edited by Karack; 01-31-2014 at 03:20 PM.
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I don't guess I've really played around with shift times in relation to throttle position, it's an automatic... I would think that you shouldn't have to worry about it all. The car appears to ****-n-git just fine with the throttle wide open to me! I only use the slapstick hitting corners when having an unwanted shift can send you the wrong direction haha
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As for the OP.. the 8's automatic is just that, an automatic. A bog standard slushbox with a torque converter. There is no reason to let off of the gas pedal, ever.
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It helps to get into first gear, for one. It's also good for skipping gears when the synchros would be taking more wear, for instance 5th>3rd.
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