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Old 06-25-2016, 10:42 AM
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Engine tear down pics are cool.
Thanks for the post
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I'd remove the OMP lines before pressure washing. They get brittle with age. Depends if you plan to get new ones also.
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Omp lines are off now. Thanks for the input guys. I will continue to post with every step.
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Might possibly be doing the same thing myself soon, look forward to seeing your progress.
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Is this normal. Or do i have to get new clutch. Also that 54mm nut is somthing eh. Now i gotta find one of those. Lol (ya canadian eh)
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Definitely needs a flywheel resurface and while you have it out you might as well install a new clutch.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Definitely needs a flywheel resurface and while you have it out you might as well install a new clutch.
I am planning on getting a light weight fly wheel. And i will put a new clutch in. Any opinions as to what clutch i should get. keeping in mind the roads here are basically out track so shes drivin hard.
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Originally Posted by Red line envy
I am planning on getting a light weight fly wheel. And i will put a new clutch in. Any opinions as to what clutch i should get. keeping in mind the roads here are basically out track so shes drivin hard.
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Originally Posted by Love_Hounds
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Thats what it is. Is that what they put in them stock. Or would this have been changed.
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Stock (Exedy) clutch is all you need.
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Jeez, what's up with all that oil everywhere.

It's nice to see that you have the motivation to do the work yourself. But based on the kind of questions you are asking, and now that engine is out, have you reconsidered just sending in it to somebody that has experience building these things? (If there's such a somebody in your area).

I have not rebuilt a renesis myself, but I have been at BHR a few times when Charles R. Hill was rebuilding engines for customers. I have to say, the "simplicity" of the rotary engine is quite deceiving. Yea, there's only three main moving parts but there's a **** ton of measuring with those seals to get them right. Plus all the measuring for all the other stuff to ensure is within tolerance. Based on how everything looks, it would not be shocking if you have to replace some parts internally. The rebuild costs can quickly escalate if there's very little you can reuse. The housings alone are a pretty peny. And if you need new rotors...oh boy. You already said money is not an issue. But headaches and frustration can be expensive in other ways lol.

Good luck and props to you for tackling this yourself. It can be a fun project provided that you are not pressured with time.
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Originally Posted by pistonhater
Jeez, what's up with all that oil everywhere.

It's nice to see that you have the motivation to do the work yourself. But based on the kind of questions you are asking, and now that engine is out, have you reconsidered just sending in it to somebody that has experience building these things? (If there's such a somebody in your area).

I have not rebuilt a renesis myself, but I have been at BHR a few times when Charles R. Hill was rebuilding engines for customers. I have to say, the "simplicity" of the rotary engine is quite deceiving. Yea, there's only three main moving parts but there's a **** ton of measuring with those seals to get them right. Plus all the measuring for all the other stuff to ensure is within tolerance. Based on how everything looks, it would not be shocking if you have to replace some parts internally. The rebuild costs can quickly escalate if there's very little you can reuse. The housings alone are a pretty peny. And if you need new rotors...oh boy. You already said money is not an issue. But headaches and frustration can be expensive in other ways lol.

Good luck and props to you for tackling this yourself. It can be a fun project provided that you are not pressured with time.
I agree with most of that but you cannot pay for knowledge. It would be easier for me to do this myself then to find somone who will. I have some measuring tool and can get more. Im only 29 years old and i dont care if it takes me years to build this beautiful car just the way i like it. I know nothing about piston engines. But somthing about the rotary just captures me. I will not give up and I appreciate all the help and tips along the way.
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Red Line,

Everyone of us started pretty similar to where you are now with the MSP anyway. Keep on truckin, watch where everything goes. I took a TON of photo's when i tore the first motor down. It's always better to do it yourself. Kinda like building an AR, it's better to do it yourself so you know later down the road. This is much bigger than an AR though... Either way, YOU CAN DO IT!

Keep on Keepin on, life's a garden DIG IT

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Originally Posted by Williard
Red Line,

Everyone of us started pretty similar to where you are now with the MSP anyway. Keep on truckin, watch where everything goes. I took a TON of photo's when i tore the first motor down. It's always better to do it yourself. Kinda like building an AR, it's better to do it yourself so you know later down the road. This is much bigger than an AR though... Either way, YOU CAN DO IT!

Keep on Keepin on, life's a garden DIG IT

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that means alot. Thank you.
Thank everyone. (You to charles)
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Im stuck untill i get my socket for this.


54mm. Cant get one around here anywhere so have to order it.
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Originally Posted by Red line envy
Im stuck untill i get my socket for this.


54mm. Cant get one around here anywhere so have to order it.
I could be wrong here, but isn't that the nut that is ridiculously tight? As in, needs one helluva impact gun to get it off?
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Yes, and he will need a flywheel stop as well. But he is winging it.
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I believe it torqued at around 300 pounds. And i have a chain for a stopper
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Really should have done this first but hey. Ok i have searched on how to drain the gas out of the 8 and i can only find old posts that dont really help me because i have no power or wireing harnesses in the car atm. There is a fair amount of gas in there and it would be ashame to let it go bad. Any suggestions on getting the gas out?
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Siphon? Remove the fuel pump(s)? Come on man.
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Originally Posted by Red line envy
Really should have done this first but hey. Ok i have searched on how to drain the gas out of the 8 and i can only find old posts that dont really help me because i have no power or wireing harnesses in the car atm. There is a fair amount of gas in there and it would be ashame to let it go bad. Any suggestions on getting the gas out?
In the under hood fuse box there is a jumper to turn on the fuel pump. If you put a rubber hose on the metal fuel line from the rear of the car ( where you unclipped the red fitting)...you can pump it into a jug
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In the under hood fuse box there is a jumper to turn on the fuel pump. If you put a rubber hose on the metal fuel line from the rear of the car ( where you unclipped the red fitting)...you can pump it into a jug
What is process for doing this when no batt is hooked up. And batt harness is in the trunk. Thanks for the help too.
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Remove the rear seat behind the drivers seat.

You'll need either a hammer and a large flathead or the fuel pump ring removal tool.
Pull the fuel pump out and siphon the gas out.


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Sooo i gave up on getting the fuel pump out due to breaking a few of the little ridges used for the tool. Guess i need to make one of those.
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What is process for doing this when no batt is hooked up. And batt harness is in the trunk. Thanks for the help too.
You options are jump the pump in the drivers side rear seat well.....hook up a 12V battery to the correct terminals and it will power up the pump

Otherwise you can open it up and siphon out the gas

How long are you going to let it sit...the gas will be more than OK for 6-8 months. Longer if you add some fuel stabilizer to the tank


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