ello13

So I flooded my engine last week and I thought no big deal, i've been through this before. I tried deflooding for over 5 hours last week before I finally gave up and purchased new plugs, wires, and coils which I went to install today.
I first pulled my old plugs again and noticed a thick black residue rather than the gasoline soaked plugs I was used to. I first try the deflood procedure again (plugs out, fuel fuse out and cranked for 6-8 secs with equal rest and then a 1 min break). I noticed there wasn't any gas coming out even at the start of it. I figured I would just do it for a couple mins anyways in case. After putting everything back in, it gae the weakest attempt at starting.

I just pulled my new plugs and there's barely any gas smell at all on them. Should I be concerned? What is the thick black residue and can it be the result of my prolonged cranking (deflooding attempts)?

It is a 6 speed, but I don't have anyone to push/pull start it. I just moved to SF and I barely know anyone. It's an 04 with about 59k miles. Any ideas guys?

SuriBoy

ello13

I'm starting to lose hope and will probably get it towed to the dealer soon...=(

rickeo

iTrader: (1)

How old is your battery? Do you have the new starter?

You say you flooded your engine last week like you've done this before. What specifically happened this time? I ask because obviously something is different this time. Its not likely that its flooded if you're not getting a gas smell after pulling the plugs and running the starter.

ello13

New battery hooked up to a jump the whole time so i wouldn't kill it. Learned my lesson when i killed my old battery. Starter was replaced around 9k miles under a TSA so old, but the "good starter". I'm worried I either killed my starter with all these cranks or maybe tore up the inside of the engine with the rotors spinning with all these cranks and not combustion/oil to relube the apex seals???




Edit: it was definitely flooded initially. I moved the car acrossthe street and didn't give it enough time to warm up. When I went through the deflood the first time, there was definitely gasoline on the plugs and they were wet. I was told to replace all the coils, wires, and plugs and they didn't all get in until today. When I went to start deflooding today., i noticed no gasoline was coming out and my plugs (leading) were covered in the thick black sludge.

ello13

pulled plugs again and will try deflooding one more time. it definitely reflooded when i tried it earlier and wouldn't start becuase I can smell gasoline again. Hopefully, it needed the gas to kick over the black sludge??? trying to be hopeful...

ello13

any ideas guys? starting to get dark andwll need to put the wheel back on soon. skipped out on sleep today(working graveyard tonight) to work on this thing.

patrick_andraste

Ether (starting fluid) can be your friend here.
the sludge is old gas and oil
also hold the throttle wide open at first then let off as you are cranking
my last flodding I ended up using compressed air to blow in the leading holes while a friend turned it over to get all of the gunk out.

ello13

I actually don't have anyone else here who can help me with the compressed air, but I like that idea. I was lucky I was able to borrow my friend's car who moved about 4 hours away, and he luckily he left his car and his keys at his mom's house.

I just reflooded the car again, as it tried to turn on, a little better than the previous attempt. I'll try once more tomorrow after I get home from work. Maybe the fresh gasoline will help loosen the dried up black gunk (hopefully it's just old oil and not my apex seals). Are my concerns valid? I guess i'd rather it be my starter after all the repeated cranking than to have anything wrong with my engine.