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First Impressions (Long)

Old 06-02-2006, 03:00 PM
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First Impressions (Long)

I got my Galaxy Gray '06 a couple days ago and so far have put only 100 miles on the clock. (What can I say? Gas is just expensive here in LA.) I don't have pictures yet, and I can't promise when they're coming, but I will talk about my initial impressions of the car below:

Overall, I think the experience is the closest thing to driving a jet that you can ever get to. The engine is just so buttery smooth, though I fear that the mileage on this tank will be quite bad, as expected. The handling, as far as I can tell, is quite neutral and balanced, but so far it's only been LA metro driving; I need to take it into the mountains one of these days, but my initial impression is that the car will excel on the medium speed roads, and not do quite as well on the extremely tight ones that I used to run for the majority of my drives. The transmission is extremely direct and the throws are very nice and short, but it seems to clunk a bit into the lower gears. I'm hoping that's just the tranny being tight since it's brand new. The brakes I haven't quite tested yet, but from the moderate braking that I've used they seem to be pretty confidence inspiring.

The interior is a treat and I especially like it at night. To continue with the jet analogy, the back seats are like economy class, certainly not the most comfortable of places, but a very unique experience nonetheless. The freestyle doors have proven themselves to be very cool and I love them, even though they were viewed as quite unnecessary when I was first shopping for the car. Finally, the styling is growing on me, though the C-pillar area I still think is a bit messy. However, the Galaxy Gray is a gorgeous color, a menacing dark gray at night, and a cool light blue-gray in direct sunlight.

Overall, I love the car, though it still has its shortcomings (the aforementioned gas mileage to beat a dead horse, and it can stand to lose a few hundred pounds). My friend said it best when he stated that the RX-8 is one of the few cars with character left in the world today. When you're driving or in a RX-8, you know its a RX-8 and wouldn't mistake it for anything else. The same can't be said for the multitude of other cars and even "sports cars" today. It's simply unique.
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Brings a tear to my eye!

.....and makes me wanna DRIVE!!!
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Just parked mine after getting lunch.

They are like jets, and they kinda sound like it, drive like it, and drink gas like it.

As for the c-pillar, look at the Rx-7 (SA/FB, 1st-gen) and it'll all be clear..

Welcome to the rotary madness.. there is no cure. Well, maybe a quad-cam italian-made twelve-banger, but that's a touch extreme, money-wise...
Old 06-02-2006, 04:31 PM
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OK, good stuff.
But lose a few HUNDRED pounds? From where, exactly?
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ditto on the "few hundred pounds" comment.

It's always nice to get another convert.

Welcome to brotherhood...one more for the good guys
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You can lose a few hundred pounds by removing the engine, aside from that, the car is pretty damn light. Alum hood, trunk, rear doors. Carbon fiber drive shaft, etc.
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I don't think there's a 4-seater car that's lighter.
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that wasnt long- where is the long post?

and i thinkyou'll find that the car does exceptionally well on the tight roads- like 1 going north out of frisco hehehehe THATS FUN!! (almost had to pull over cause the wife thought she might puke hehehhehehe)
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Let's make it quite clear, I wish it was a few hundred pounds lighter, but as it is I would not get anywhere near that number unless I wanted a fully stripped out racecar. Losing a few hundred pounds would involve losing probably 10 inches of wheelbase, the rear seats, and the freestyle doors. In other words, it would be a completely new car. Still, I can dream.
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if u're hoping to lose a few pounds so u can increase ur power to weight ratio....

it's usually better to just increase ur power than to lose weight IMO. the rx8's special because it offers the level of performance as well as comfort/practicality....don't kill the latter in attempt to lose weight....

just wait for a more effective turbo kit to come out, slap it on and call it a day

now if u're talkin about losing weight so u can turn faster...do some suspension mods and the car should handle pretty darn well for u already.

outta curiousity what was ur previous car?
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
I and not do quite as well on the extremely tight ones that I used to run for the majority of my drives.
Prepare to be surprised my friend.
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
I The transmission is extremely direct and the throws are very nice and short, but it seems to clunk a bit into the lower gears.
If your referring to the "notchyness" in 1st & 2nd that's just the nature of the beast. It was one of my concerns on the test drive I took. Both M/T's I drove were that way. Don't worry about it, after awhile you get use to it.
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
I don't think there's a 4-seater car that's lighter.
That's a joke right?
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Oh yea, forgot about hatchbacks
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Oh yea, forgot about hatchbacks
Guess it wasn't a joke...
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Originally Posted by Ike
Guess it wasn't a joke...
Are there any 4 seaters lighter than the 8 besides hatchbacks?
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Are there any 4 seaters lighter than the 8 besides hatchbacks?
Plenty.
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
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Curbweight is around 3000lbs depending on options, that isn't exactly a lightweight... Light compared to a lot of cars, but if you're looking for light and nimble there are plenty lighter, and many of them have 4 seats and even 4 doors.
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Curbweight is around 3000lbs depending on options, that isn't exactly a lightweight... Light compared to a lot of cars, but if you're looking for light and nimble there are plenty lighter, and many of them have 4 seats and even 4 doors.
Just curious...what are some of those cars?
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Originally Posted by tiggerlee
If your referring to the "notchyness" in 1st & 2nd that's just the nature of the beast. It was one of my concerns on the test drive I took. Both M/T's I drove were that way. Don't worry about it, after awhile you get use to it.
It's not so much the notchiness (which I'm pretty used to from previous cars) as it is almost a "clunk" sound when I engage 1st from neutral. It also occasionally engages 2nd fairly hard, almost like I'm slamming it in, but I'm not. Still, the gearbox is almost intuitive since my heel-toe shifts are now imperceptible most of the time and I haven't even had the car for 200 miles!

As to my obsession with lightweight, it's not really a means to an end, but almost an end to itself. Lightweight is the holy grail of racecar designers, and having done that the past few years I am definitely looking for ways to make the car light. Turbos increase your straight line speed, suspension helps your lateral gs, bigger brakes stop you better. Lighter weight does all of that. However, I definitely won't be sacrificing the civility of the car in the interest of lightweight.

My previous car was a 2001 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
that wasnt long- where is the long post?

and i thinkyou'll find that the car does exceptionally well on the tight roads- like 1 going north out of frisco hehehehe THATS FUN!! (almost had to pull over cause the wife thought she might puke hehehhehehe)

We must be married to the same woman......
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Pictures have been posted in the multimedia section under the "Calling all Galaxy Gray" thread.
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You won't lose much weight off the 8 unofortunately... It's about as light as you can get it without having a stripped out interior.

You can save a few pounds in the wheels and battery though.

If you have the packages, they add about 100 pounds or so to the total weight.
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Originally Posted by Stavesacre21
Just curious...what are some of those cars?
Here's a list of recent Sedans that weigh 3100 and under...

2006 Mazda MAZDA6 i Sports Sedan 3091
2006 Mazda MAZDA6 i Sports Sedan Sport Model 3091
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 3085
2005 Volvo S40 2.4i 3084
2005 Honda Accord Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 3053
2005 Honda Accord Sedan DX 5-Spd AT 3049
2005 Honda Accord Sedan DX VP 5-Spd AT 3049
2005 Nissan Altima 2.5 S 3041
2006 Nissan Altima 2.5 S 3041
2006 Subaru Impreza 2.5i Sedan 3016
2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS TDI 3003
2005 Nissan Altima 2.5 3001
2006 Nissan Altima 2.5 3001
2005 Honda Accord Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2989
2005 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Sport Package Sedan 2976
2005 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS Sedan 2972
2005 Volkswagen Golf GLS 1.9 TDI 2972
2006 Volkswagen Golf GLS 1.9 TDI 2972
2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 1.9 TDI Sedan 2934
2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS 2.0L 2934
2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GLS 2.0L PZEV 2934
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart 2922
2005 Dodge SRT-4 Base 2900
2005 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 2897
2006 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 2897
2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GL 2.0L 2895
2005 Volkswagen Jetta Sedan GL 2.0L PZEV 2895
2005 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890
2006 Toyota Prius 4-Door Liftback 2890
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Sedan 2871
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV 2869
2006 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV w/ Navigation System 2869
2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan LX AWD 2859
2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Base AWD 2859
2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Premium AWD 2859
2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 Sedan 2857
2006 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 Sedan 2857
2005 Kia Spectra5 Base 2844
2006 Kia Spectra5 Base 2844
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart 2843
2006 Hyundai Elantra Limited 4-Door 2837
2006 Saturn ION 3 Sedan Automatic 2831
2005 Kia Spectra EX 2826
2005 Kia Spectra SX 2826
2005 Mazda MAZDA3 SP23 5-Door 2826
2005 Mazda MAZDA3 s 5-Door 2826
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sport Sedan 2808
2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd AT 2804
2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd AT w/ Navigation System 2804
2006 Saturn ION 2 Sedan Automatic 2802
2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4-Door 2784
2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS 5-Door 2784
2006 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-Door 2784
2005 Suzuki Reno EX 2783
2005 Saturn ION 3 Sedan 2772
2006 Saturn ION 3 Sedan Manual 2772
2005 Mazda MAZDA3 SP23 4-Door 2762
2005 Mazda MAZDA3 s 4-Door 2762
2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s 4-Door 2762
2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s Grand Touring 4-Door 2762
2006 Mazda MAZDA3 s Touring 4-Door 2762
2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2761
2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R 2761
2005 Suzuki Forenza EX 2756
2006 Saturn ION 2 Sedan Manual 2752
2006 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd AT 2751
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT AT-PZEV 2749
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2745
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer OZ-Rally 2745
2005 Saturn ION 2 Sedan 2743
2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT 2740
2006 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT w/ Navigation System 2740
2005 Suzuki Reno LX 2739
2005 Suzuki Reno S 2739
2006 Suzuki Reno Base 2739
2006 Suzuki Reno Convenience 2739
2006 Suzuki Reno Premium 2739
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT 2736
2005 Saturn ION 1 Sedan 2722
2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2710
2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2710
2005 Honda Civic GX NGV CVT w/ ABS [Limited Availability] 2703
2005 Kia Spectra LX 2701
2005 Suzuki Forenza LX 2701
2005 Suzuki Forenza S 2701
2006 Kia Spectra EX 2701
2006 Kia Spectra SX 2701
2006 Suzuki Forenza Base 2701
2006 Suzuki Forenza Premium 2701
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer OZ-Rally 2700
2005 Mazda MAZDA3 i 4-Door 2696
2006 Mazda MAZDA3 i 4-Door 2696
2006 Mazda MAZDA3 i Touring 4-Door 2696
2006 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd AT 2690
2006 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 2685
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 5-Spd MT AT-PZEV 2684
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sedan 2676
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Sedan 2676
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid 5-Spd MT 2675
2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 2670
2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 2670
2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 4-Spd AT 2668
2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2668
2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX SE 4-Spd AT 2668
2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan LX 2661
2005 Suzuki Aerio Sedan S 2661
2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Base 2661
2006 Suzuki Aerio Sedan Premium 2661
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2656
2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4-Door 2635
2005 Hyundai Elantra GLS 5-Door 2635
2005 Hyundai Elantra GT 4-Door 2635
2005 Hyundai Elantra GT 5-Door 2635
2006 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2628
2005 Dodge Neon SXT 2626
2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT 2612
2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2612
2005 Honda Civic Sedan EX SE 5-Spd MT 2612
2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 4-Spd AT 2606
2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2606
2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX SE 4-Spd AT 2606
2005 Dodge Neon SE 2581
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8 S 2581
2006 Nissan Sentra 1.8 S 2580
2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT 2560
2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2560
2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX SE 5-Spd MT 2560
2007 Honda Fit Sport 5-Spd AT 2551
2005 Toyota Corolla LE 2550
2005 Toyota Corolla S 2550
2006 Toyota Corolla LE 2550
2006 Toyota Corolla S 2550
2005 Honda Civic Sedan VP 4-Spd AT 2544
2005 Honda Civic Sedan VP 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2544
2005 Toyota Corolla CE 2530
2006 Toyota Corolla CE 2530
2007 Honda Fit 5-Spd AT 2514
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8 2513
2006 Nissan Sentra 1.8 2513
2007 Honda Fit Sport 5-Spd MT 2471
2005 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT 2449
2005 Honda Civic Sedan DX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2449
2007 Honda Fit 5-Spd MT 2432
2005 Kia Rio Sedan 2403
2005 Chevrolet Aveo LT Sedan 2376
2006 Chevrolet Aveo LT Sedan 2376
2006 Hyundai Accent GLS 2366
2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS Sedan 2365
2005 Chevrolet Aveo Special Value Sedan 2365
2006 Chevrolet Aveo LS Sedan 2365
2006 Chevrolet Aveo Special Value Sedan 2365
2006 Kia Rio Base 2365
2006 Kia Rio LX Sedan 2365
2005 Scion xA 5-Door Hatch Back 2340
2006 Scion xA 5-Door Hatch Back 2340
2007 Toyota Yaris S 2293
2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan 2293
2005 Hyundai Accent GLS 4-Door 2290
2005 Toyota ECHO 4-Door Sedan 2055

Coupes, many are 4 seaters but not all:

2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 3097
2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather and XM Radio 3097
2006 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather/ Nav/ XM Radio 3097
2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe 3091
2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 Coupe 3091
2005 Porsche 911 Carrera Base 3075
2006 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3075
2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd AT 3060
2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX SE 5-Spd AT 3060
2006 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 3056
2005 Dodge Stratus Coupe SXT 3051
2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 3047
2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather and XM Radio 3047
2005 Honda Accord Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather/ Nav/ XM Radio 3047
2005 Porsche 911 GT3 Coupe 3043
2005 Volkswagen GTI VR6 3036
2005 Hyundai Tiburon SE 3023
2005 Hyundai Tiburon GT 3015
2006 Volkswagen New Beetle TDI 3005
2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2994
2005 Honda Accord Coupe LX SE 5-Spd MT 2994
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt Coupe 2991
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe 2991
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe 2991
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LT Coupe 2991
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991
2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 1.9L TDI 2989
2005 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987
2006 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987
2006 Hyundai Tiburon SE 2986
2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT 2969
2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT LTD 2969
2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 2965
2006 Porsche Cayman S 2954
2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2950
2005 Hyundai Tiburon GS 2940
2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934
2006 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934
2005 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933
2006 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933
2005 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905
2006 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905
2006 Hyundai Tiburon GS 2898
2006 Volkswagen New Beetle 2.5L 2884
2006 Volkswagen New Beetle 2.5L PZEV 2884
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT 2877
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav 2877
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav and Performance Tires 2877
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Performance Tires 2877
2006 Saturn ION 3 Quad Coupe Automatic 2871
2006 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe Automatic 2843
2006 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2840
2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 1.8T 2820
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe 2815
2005 Saturn ION 3 Quad Coupe 2812
2006 Saturn ION 3 Quad Coupe Manual 2812
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809
2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2786
2005 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe 2784
2006 Saturn ION 2 Quad Coupe Manual 2784
2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT 2778
2005 Pontiac Sunfire Coupe 2771
2005 Pontiac Sunfire Coupe w/1SV 2771
2005 Volkswagen Golf GL 2.0 2771
2005 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2769
2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd AT 2767
2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd AT w/ Navigation System 2767
2006 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2750
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Sport Coupe 2749
2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GL 2.0L 2743
2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 2.0L 2743
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734
2006 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd AT 2716
2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 2701
2006 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Navigation System 2701
2005 MINI Cooper S 2679
2006 MINI Cooper S 2679
2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 4-Spd AT 2657
2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2657
2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX SE 4-Spd AT 2657
2006 Honda Civic Coupe DX 5-Spd AT 2655
2006 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2654
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe 2617
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe w/1SV 2617
2005 Chevrolet Cavalier LS Coupe 2617
2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT 2597
2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2597
2005 Honda Civic Coupe EX SE 5-Spd MT 2597
2006 Honda Civic Coupe DX 5-Spd MT 2593
2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 4-Spd AT 2588
2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2588
2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX SE 4-Spd AT 2588
2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT 2538
2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2538
2005 Honda Civic Coupe LX SE 5-Spd MT 2538
2005 MINI Cooper Base 2524
2006 MINI Cooper Base 2524
2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX CVT 2522
2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX CVT w/ Front Side Airbags 2522
2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 4-Spd AT 2513
2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 4-Spd AT w/ Front Side Airbags 2513
2005 Toyota Celica GTS 2500
2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 5-Spd MT 2456
2005 Honda Civic Coupe VP 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2456
2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX 5-Spd MT 2441
2005 Honda Civic Coupe HX 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2441
2005 Toyota Celica GT 2425
2007 Toyota Yaris 3-Door Liftback 2293
2005 Hyundai Accent GLS 3-Door 2280
2005 Hyundai Accent GT 3-Door 2280
2005 Toyota ECHO 2-Door Sedan 2035
2005 Honda Insight CVT w/ AC 1975
2006 Honda Insight CVT w/ AC 1975
2005 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT w/ AC 1881
2006 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT w/ AC 1881
2005 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT 1850
2006 Honda Insight 5-Spd MT 1850

"Sports cars" (not all 4 seaters)

2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe 3091
2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 Coupe 3091
2005 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3089
2006 BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0si 3086
2005 Porsche 911 Carrera Base 3075
2006 Mazda RX-8 Sport AT 3075
2006 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3075
2005 Chrysler Crossfire Coupe Limited 3061
2005 Mazda RX-8 Sport AT 3053
2005 Mazda RX-8 Sport AT Shinka 3053
2006 Mazda RX-8 6-Speed 3045
2005 Porsche 911 GT3 Coupe 3043
2005 Porsche Carrera GT Cabriolet 3043
2005 Volkswagen GTI VR6 3036
2005 Mazda RX-8 6-Speed 3029
2005 Mazda RX-8 6-Speed Shinka 3029
2005 Hyundai Tiburon SE 3023
2006 BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0i 3020
2005 Hyundai Tiburon GT 3015
2005 Chrysler Crossfire Coupe 3010
2005 BMW Z4 Roadster 3.0i 2998
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe 2991
2005 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987
2006 Audi TT 180 Coupe FrontTrak 2987
2006 Hyundai Tiburon SE 2986
2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT 2969
2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT LTD 2969
2005 Porsche Boxster S 2965
2006 Porsche Boxster S 2965
2006 Porsche Cayman S 2954
2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2950
2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934
2006 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 2934
2005 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933
2006 Saturn ION Red Line Quad Coupe 2933
2005 BMW Z4 Roadster 2.5i 2932
2005 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905
2006 Scion tC Sport Coupe 2905
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT 2877
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav 2877
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Nav and Performance Tires 2877
2006 Honda Civic Si 6-Spd MT w/ Performance Tires 2877
2006 Pontiac Solstice Roadster 2860
2007 Saturn SKY Convertible 2860
2005 Porsche Boxster Convertible 2855
2006 Honda S2000 6-Spd MT 2855
2006 Porsche Boxster Convertible 2855
2005 MINI Cooper S Convertible 2844
2006 MINI Cooper S Convertible 2844
2006 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2840
2005 Honda S2000 6-Spd MT 2835
2005 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS 1.8T 2820
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT 2809
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd AT w/ Leather 2809
2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT w/ Front Side Airbags 2786
2005 Honda Civic Si 5-Spd MT 2778
2005 Acura RSX Type-S 6-Spd MT w/ Leather 2769
2006 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 2750
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734
2005 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT 2734
2006 Acura RSX 5-Spd MT w/ Leather 2734
2005 MINI Cooper S 2679
2006 MINI Cooper S 2679
2005 Mazda MAZDASPEED MX-5 MIATA 2529
2005 Toyota Celica GTS 2500
2006 Morgan Aero 8 Convertible 2500
2006 Mazda MX-5 3rd Generation Limited 2498
2006 Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring 2498
2006 Mazda MX-5 Sport 2498
2005 Morgan Aero 8 Convertible 2496
2006 Mazda MX-5 Base 2474
2006 Mazda MX-5 Touring 2474
2005 Mazda MX-5 Miata Cloth 2447
2005 Mazda MX-5 Miata LS 2447
2006 Mazda MX-5 Club Spec 2441
2005 Toyota Celica GT 2425
2005 Toyota MR2 Spyder Convertible 2195
2006 Lotus Elise Convertible 1984
2005 Lotus Elise Convertible 1975


Then consider that cars are much heavier now than they once were, it was probably pretty tought to find a Japanese cars much over 3000lbs just a decade ago. I know my big ole Maxima with a V6 weighed less than 3000lbs. Even sedans like the Evo and WRX/STI with heavy AWD systems and close to 300hp weighed less than 3000lbs not long ago.

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