E-Brake question
07-03-2006, 02:07 AM
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E-Brake question
This may seem like a lame question but I can't find the answer...and yes I've searched.
The e-brake in our cars, it it's only purpose to stop the car from rolling away on uneven surfaces? i know my last 2 cars were standard and all the e-brake did was prevent the car from rolling away...but for example on my gf's auto it will lock the tires and bring you to a screaching halt.
As well my buddys STI, you pull the e-brake and it will lock the tires. Anyone have any ideas????
The e-brake in our cars, it it's only purpose to stop the car from rolling away on uneven surfaces? i know my last 2 cars were standard and all the e-brake did was prevent the car from rolling away...but for example on my gf's auto it will lock the tires and bring you to a screaching halt.
As well my buddys STI, you pull the e-brake and it will lock the tires. Anyone have any ideas????
07-03-2006, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Krankor
Why on earth would anybody WANT to lock up the tires?
alot of pro drivers use it for certain manoeuvers, ever watch burning rubber with tiff needell? they make real good use of it.
07-03-2006, 03:27 AM
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Ive seen vids of pro japanese drivers (Tsuchiya i think?) use the e-brake on the 8 just fine.
There was one segment where 3 or 4 drivers had a little drift contest in an 8, made good use of the ebrake there.
There was one segment where 3 or 4 drivers had a little drift contest in an 8, made good use of the ebrake there.
07-03-2006, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cjkim
Ive seen vids of pro japanese drivers (Tsuchiya i think?) use the e-brake on the 8 just fine.
There was one segment where 3 or 4 drivers had a little drift contest in an 8, made good use of the ebrake there.
There was one segment where 3 or 4 drivers had a little drift contest in an 8, made good use of the ebrake there.
so is mine broken you think? all mine will do is prevent the car from rolling away, but if I were to pull it while driving it does absolutley nothing.....is anyone elses like this?
07-03-2006, 04:01 AM
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It needs adjusting. It should serve as a parking brake (I'm assuming you also leave the car in gear when parked) to take strain off transmission and as a back up should it pop out of gear somehow . . . but it should also serve as an emergency brake should your master cylinder fail while driving or other such calamity.
Are your rear pads real low?
Are your rear pads real low?
07-03-2006, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 800 Bwlr
It needs adjusting. It should serve as a parking brake (I'm assuming you also leave the car in gear when parked) to take strain off transmission and as a back up should it pop out of gear somehow . . . but it should also serve as an emergency brake should your master cylinder fail while driving or other such calamity.
Are your rear pads real low?
Are your rear pads real low?
No, my rear pads aren't too bad. How do you adjust it? thanks
07-03-2006, 05:24 AM
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Well, you'll probably get differing opinions on here but I would say the following:
It's possible for the cable to actually stretch over time and the cable itself can be adjusted (at least that is true on past cars I've owned). However, your car is far too new for that to be a likely problem.
More likely is that the rear caliper pistons need adjusting. They are different from the front in that the pistons are actually 'screwed' in with an adjusting screw. In other words, the front calipers are auto adjusting but the rears are not. When you replace pads you need to screw the rear piston in until it touches the pad and then back off slightly so it doesn't rub. You do this by using the adjusting screw behind the caliper.
Caveat - I haven't looked but my understanding is the RX-8 uses a somewhat abnormal adjusting screw. Usually a hex key works but I remember reading that for the RX-8 a special tool is available. I also recall reading that some have found needle nose pliers will suffice. I'm not sure on this point though.
I would imagine that if the rear calipers are adjusted, you'll fine that the parking brake will grab better. You'll know because when you pull up on the handle it will get harder much sooner (less clicks) than it currently does. I hope if nothing else I've got you moving in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more specific or if I've misdiagnosed your problem.
It's possible for the cable to actually stretch over time and the cable itself can be adjusted (at least that is true on past cars I've owned). However, your car is far too new for that to be a likely problem.
More likely is that the rear caliper pistons need adjusting. They are different from the front in that the pistons are actually 'screwed' in with an adjusting screw. In other words, the front calipers are auto adjusting but the rears are not. When you replace pads you need to screw the rear piston in until it touches the pad and then back off slightly so it doesn't rub. You do this by using the adjusting screw behind the caliper.
Caveat - I haven't looked but my understanding is the RX-8 uses a somewhat abnormal adjusting screw. Usually a hex key works but I remember reading that for the RX-8 a special tool is available. I also recall reading that some have found needle nose pliers will suffice. I'm not sure on this point though.
I would imagine that if the rear calipers are adjusted, you'll fine that the parking brake will grab better. You'll know because when you pull up on the handle it will get harder much sooner (less clicks) than it currently does. I hope if nothing else I've got you moving in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more specific or if I've misdiagnosed your problem.
07-03-2006, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 800 Bwlr
Well, you'll probably get differing opinions on here but I would say the following:
It's possible for the cable to actually stretch over time and the cable itself can be adjusted (at least that is true on past cars I've owned). However, your car is far too new for that to be a likely problem.
More likely is that the rear caliper pistons need adjusting. They are different from the front in that the pistons are actually 'screwed' in with an adjusting screw. In other words, the front calipers are auto adjusting but the rears are not. When you replace pads you need to screw the rear piston in until it touches the pad and then back off slightly so it doesn't rub. You do this by using the adjusting screw behind the caliper.
Caveat - I haven't looked but my understanding is the RX-8 uses a somewhat abnormal adjusting screw. Usually a hex key works but I remember reading that for the RX-8 a special tool is available. I also recall reading that some have found needle nose pliers will suffice. I'm not sure on this point though.
I would imagine that if the rear calipers are adjusted, you'll fine that the parking brake will grab better. You'll know because when you pull up on the handle it will get harder much sooner (less clicks) than it currently does. I hope if nothing else I've got you moving in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more specific or if I've misdiagnosed your problem.
It's possible for the cable to actually stretch over time and the cable itself can be adjusted (at least that is true on past cars I've owned). However, your car is far too new for that to be a likely problem.
More likely is that the rear caliper pistons need adjusting. They are different from the front in that the pistons are actually 'screwed' in with an adjusting screw. In other words, the front calipers are auto adjusting but the rears are not. When you replace pads you need to screw the rear piston in until it touches the pad and then back off slightly so it doesn't rub. You do this by using the adjusting screw behind the caliper.
Caveat - I haven't looked but my understanding is the RX-8 uses a somewhat abnormal adjusting screw. Usually a hex key works but I remember reading that for the RX-8 a special tool is available. I also recall reading that some have found needle nose pliers will suffice. I'm not sure on this point though.
I would imagine that if the rear calipers are adjusted, you'll fine that the parking brake will grab better. You'll know because when you pull up on the handle it will get harder much sooner (less clicks) than it currently does. I hope if nothing else I've got you moving in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more specific or if I've misdiagnosed your problem.
thanks alot bro, when I replace my brake pads I'll take a look and post the results.
07-03-2006, 03:26 PM
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This car has more grip on the back tires than you think. You will be having to pull on the e brake harder than nnormal, and be going a lot faster than in other cars to get it to lock the back tires. Its verry posible (and a lot of fun) but you have to be careful because since you have to have a little speed, it can also be dangerous.
07-03-2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RxGr8t
This may seem like a lame question but I can't find the answer...and yes I've searched.
The e-brake in our cars, it it's only purpose to stop the car from rolling away on uneven surfaces? i know my last 2 cars were standard and all the e-brake did was prevent the car from rolling away...but for example on my gf's auto it will lock the tires and bring you to a screaching halt.
As well my buddys STI, you pull the e-brake and it will lock the tires. Anyone have any ideas????
The e-brake in our cars, it it's only purpose to stop the car from rolling away on uneven surfaces? i know my last 2 cars were standard and all the e-brake did was prevent the car from rolling away...but for example on my gf's auto it will lock the tires and bring you to a screaching halt.
As well my buddys STI, you pull the e-brake and it will lock the tires. Anyone have any ideas????
07-04-2006, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RxGr8t
The e-brake in our cars, it it's only purpose to stop the car from rolling away on uneven surfaces? i know my last 2 cars were standard and all the e-brake did was prevent the car from rolling away...but for example on my gf's auto it will lock the tires and bring you to a screaching halt.
As well my buddys STI, you pull the e-brake and it will lock the tires. Anyone have any ideas????
As well my buddys STI, you pull the e-brake and it will lock the tires. Anyone have any ideas????
Yes, if you pull hard on the parking brake while driving you can lock the rear wheels. Being a mechanical linkage it by-passes the ABS. Not sure why you would want to do this though.
07-04-2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RxGr8t
alot of pro drivers use it for certain manoeuvers, ever watch burning rubber with tiff needell? they make real good use of it.
07-04-2006, 04:59 PM
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Being a mechanical linkage it by-passes the ABS. Not sure why you would want to do this though.
07-05-2006, 08:49 AM
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While I am strictly a "street" driver, my impression was that drifting is accomplished by breaking loose the rear tires in a turn with too much power, not simply locking the rear wheels up. Do I have it wrong?
07-05-2006, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by msrecant
While I am strictly a "street" driver, my impression was that drifting is accomplished by breaking loose the rear tires in a turn with too much power, not simply locking the rear wheels up. Do I have it wrong?
10-03-2006, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 800 Bwlr
It should serve as a parking brake (I'm assuming you also leave the car in gear when parked) to take strain off transmission
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