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Old 07-17-2010, 02:51 PM
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Dealer told me I have to pay for flash updates

I am sitting here trying to search the site on my phone, but it is difficult. I have 77k miles on a 2004 rx8 and came here to get a flash update. The dealer said that since I am over 70k miles, mazda won't ccover it and I have to pay for it. Mnao is not answering on the customer service line. From what I saw from searching. It looks like mazda should cover the flashes. Any help is appreciated.
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if its a recall should be free no matter what millage you have

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Makes sense, they just gave me my car back with no flashes done and I can't make it out of the parking lot. Stalled 5 times. Wtf
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That is BS I hate shitty dealers try to scam for more money
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Agreed. I am definitely calling mnao to talk about this dealer and putting up a negative review on this forum and yelp
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For about the millionth time...........no flash that I am aware of is categorized as a "Recall".....so quit calling it that!

Having said that...............print out the following TSB and show it to them!
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Thnx mazsurfer. Yea I just wanted the msp16 flash and they did something with the pcm, maybe reset it and my pcm is having is having a hard time remapping everything. I had it idle at the dealer for 20 min, but no improvements. I am getting new plugs, wires, and coils in a few days, so hpefully that works. Then ill take to a different dealer
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Letting it idle does nothing.

You have to drive it for a few cycles.

Please read the stickies.
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Thnx razz. I let it idle as that is what the dealer tech wantwd to do. Lol.. ill drive it around som and hopefully improves. But the car dies everytime it goes to a stop light or slows down to under 5mph. I am trying to read the stickies on my phone too
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^...............yeah, what they may have done is actually flash the PCM and given you the latest flash.
If you are sure they touched the PCM?
Did they attach any sticker to you hood?
The flash actually goes into the PCM if you didn't know.



As Razz1 just pointed out..............immediately afterwards, you may have stalling issues until you drive it a few times. By this we mean, start it, drive it, shut it off. Then repeat a few times......sometimes over the course of a day.

However...............you may have other issues!

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They did not put a sticker on my hood, but I am 100% they did something to the pcm, whether it was the msp16, I am not sure. Hopefully it is not anything else serious as I had no problems before this. Diligent with oil changes and pre mixing gas. Cars runs great. I had a misfire 2 weeks ago and that is why I ordered the plugs and bought coils and wires. I figured I get ths flash done too, but maybe should've waited
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hey danielk did you by chance go to phillips mazda, on alicia, did you?

i hope not becuase i didn and the suckkkk. i hate them. they effed up my side skirts taking it off the lift, and at costs will try to avoid paying for or doing any extra work on cars.

reason i ask is becuase i see you live in aliso, dont see to many other 8s around here
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If your still having problems... just blame Rob ^

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Hey rob, yup, I went to philips and they are a disaster. I should've went to irvine or tustin..

I have been driving aaround a bit today, but no improvements yet. Will try again tomorrow and try to hold out until my parts come in. My check engine light is on now.. I am thinking it is a misfire, but this sux
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For about the millionth time...........no flash that I am aware of is categorized as a "Recall".....so quit calling it that!
Wouldn't the flash associated with recall 4206f be considered to be a recall?

MSP16 is not a recall, but they're supposed to do it on any RX-8 they get their hands on...so it's just as mandatory as a recall, and just as free.

Ken
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