3Rotor

O.K., here you guys go... It has been a very long weekend being the driver of Mazda’s newest ambassador – the RX-8!! I went to the Portland Historic Races this weekend, so I have a wide variety of experiences to report on! I am going to come from a slightly different angle in my review since most of us have read just about everything there is out there so far.
Here is a recap of my weekend: Picked-up the car on Friday and had a very busy day getting set for an early departure from Tacoma. I could barely sleep Friday night because I was soooo excited. I managed to squeeze in 2 hours. I started by packing the car. RPNW was putting on a display in the Car Corral, and I was to bring a variety of items. Here is what I had packed in the trunk: a 1000 watt gas powered generator (15” tall by 15” wide and 12” deep), a 2 gallon gas can, a full size fire extinguisher, a 12”h x 12”l x 6”w box, a soft side carry on bag (with my clothes and shaving gear for the weekend), cleaning supplies and a wash bucket, a roll of paper towels, a Compaq Presario tower circa 1995 (CPU only), Keyboard/Mouse/Speakers, 100’ extension cord on a spool, a jacket, a couple of other minor small odds and ends. While you couldn’t put large items into the trunk, you can get plenty of small things in there. Hard-side items (unless they are the perfect size) will be a challenge. The trunk really is very useable and everyone was impressed with all of the things I was able to get in there.
Driving impression: I love this car! It is a blast to drive. Everything you have read about this car is dead-on. It is quick, revs like nothing most people have ever driven, and provides wonderfully smooth turbine-type sounds as you move along. It has plenty of get up and go. I was able to take it out on the track for the Parade Lap and for some unknown reason J we blew right by the exit and had to go around again, without a pace car. The car corners extremely well, accelerates quickly and smoothly, and is going to get a lot of people in trouble on the street!! On day two, we went out with the Porsche Club so it was another great lap with the same results.
The car will fit 4 full size adults. Saturday night we put the 4-passenger thing to the test as we all went to dinner. I like to sit far back (I’m 6 feet with long legs), so I had to adjust my seat further forward than I normally do, but it was still very manageable. On the other side of the car, neither the front or rear passenger’s knees were touching anything. Again, I wouldn’t suggest a two-hour drive that way, but out on the town, NO Problem.
I really like the navigation system. It is not immediately intuitive, but once you play with it and understand how it works, it is very impressive. I used it on the way back to find a Burger King and then I set it to find my home, as I knew I was going to take a different route than it would choose. I wanted to see how it would react to that. It recalculated the route with no problem. The audio directions are very clear and accurate. The stereo volume is automatically lowered before the Nav audio instructions announce.
Sound Systems are very subjective things. Believe it or not, the system in my 98 Volvo T5 sounds better to me. I would rate the RX-8 Bose system as an 8 out of 10. It is very easy to use, has some great features, and loading the discs and operating the system is very intuitive. The audio pilot works well and while not completely seamless, it isn’t distracting at all. It noticed it most when traveling on the highway over varied road surfaces.
A couple of things I noticed about the car that I really liked were the steering wheel and the rev range. The steering wheel cross-section shape is oval, so it fits my hands very well. It is also not some thin thing. It has the necessary heft to be both comfortable and appropriate for the type of driving this car is going to be put through. The rev range is so large, you could literally drive the car in any gear. It’s great that it has a 6-speed transmission, but a couple of times I kept wondering why - oh well, it’s fun shifting all those gears!
The car was an absolute showstopper. It drew a tremendous amount of attention. 99% of the comments were positive. A couple people had some very nit picky things to say and I don’t even remember what they were. It is really amazing just how low and how far back the engine is mounted – they weren’t kidding and they aren’t messing around!
My gas mileage on the first tank was right at 20 mpg and that is damn good if you consider that I have been having fun with it and it had to idle while we were queuing up for the parade lap and then 2 laps around the track, more fun on the way back to the hotel, etc, etc.
I am very excited for Mazda. They have hit the nail on the head! The rotary is back. This is going to be a very successful car. Congratulations to all who will be joining the rotary ranks. I can now join all those who came before me and say – YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!
Brad aka 3Rotor

TJRX8

Great review! Thanks. Hopefully I'll be posting the same in the next few days.

Gyro

Hey 3rotor.....what was your impression of the a/c system? does it have quiet fans......is it cool enough (not sure of your weather). there has been alot of negative buzz about the cooling ability....any thoughts?

also....was there any final pre-order gifts with your car???

ibfubar2000

how hot did it run? did the engine get too hot in your opinion?

3Rotor

The A/C worked just fine. It's manual, but very easy to reach, very intuitive. Nice vents (they have aluminum trim rings). Between listening to the stereo, listening to NAV directions and listening to the sweet sounds of the RENESIS, I didn't notice any unusual degree of noise from the A/C. I only had to run it full blast once and only shortly because it cooled it down pretty quickly, then I backed it down to position 1 (it has off and 4 fan levels) and it has another dial to handle degree of cool or warmth. I was watching the engine temp gauge. It changed, but not more than a couple of ticks (which isn't much). Even when I came off of the parade (hot lap) - idling for 15 minutes, then buzzing around the track twice, I pulled it back in, opened the hood for display again and pulled off the cover, I don't remember noticing anything unusual and I definitely have something to contrast it to since the Cosmo lets off quite a noticiable amount of heat for a long time. The RX-8 doesn't have any heat issue as far as I can tell - no worries! The temp yesterday was in the low to mid 80s. BTW the layout and ergonomics of the car are superb!

Prowla

Extremely great review. I wish the best of times ahead of you with this car, as well as the others who will soon be getting their cars... I swear I'll own one of these babies within a few years, but for right now, I have other plans in sight.

akrx8

your just making me drool even more ,and knowing that my car should be sitting in tacoma as of fri or sat is making me crazzzzy.i wish i could have got the nav system but its not available in alaska or hawaii.how do you like the seats(driver and pass)are the comfortable,i commute about 1 hr each way and have a bad lower back so im hoping there nice.

Sandberglar

Great review Brad, glad you like the car so much. Will you be driving it to Seven Stock 6 this year?

Hercules

3Rotor, if you can tell us the lease rates and residuals... you'd rock

Racer X-8

Man, shoot! I think I'll take mine around the Darlington track a few times when I get it. Maybe Charlotte too. Road Atlanta? Yeah!!!:D

In my DREAMS!!:p

Nice review, appreciate your honesty on the few things.

rowentx

Great review. I can tell you have enjoyed your first few days with the car. I'm sick with anticipation after reading your review and seeing a Yellow RX-8 over the weekend.

3Rotor

I won't be making the trek to SevenStock this year. I definitely plan to drive the 20B 10th Anniversary down the following year.

As for lease rates. Leases are complicated and my deal had a lot of moving parts - another car, business considerations, tax issues, etc. So my payment will be different from anyone else because of that and I have some options on mine. Here is what I can tell you:
I have a 6 speed with the GT package and Nav (I don't think they really consider the $1000 worth of port installed options, but I'm not sure). I had no down payment, no cap reduction, no security deposit, just the first payment plus tax and license. I will make 35 additional payments. I also can extend the lease 1 to 3 months at the same payment without affecting my payment or residual value. I get 45,000 miles. The residual value on the car is $17677.40. I may purchase the car for $500 over that. My "interest rate" is 3.623%. I am a financial planner, so here is a link you can use based upon the information I have provided to play with the numbers:

http://www.firstcommand.com/home/fin...ndex.html#auto

I hope that all helps!

Hercules

Wow, how did you get such a low interest rate?

I am just curious because I'm not sure what to expect... is that thru Mazda Finance or somebody else?

Thanks!

3Rotor

The dealer hooked me up with a local lender that they do business with, also happens to be the lender I have my mortgage with and I have sterling credit. They also knew they were competing with another offer I had and I provided them the details. It took them about an hour to put the deal together.

brillo

Can you talk a little about the daily driving feel? How was it crusing around at 30-40 mph? How easy is it to launch from a stop sign or red light? what RPM do you slip the clutch in? hows the low mid range tq? from say 2000-5000 RPM? hows the clutch and shifter feel?

cueball

3Rotor you are the man! Thanks for the great review. It is one thing to hear it from a mag, but hearing it from a forum member is so much better.

Enjoy your 8.

zoom44

i got a chance to see Brad's(3Rotor) car on sunday and i gotta tell you this is one sweet car!! i was really overwhelmed. the seats are great and though i didn't move the driver seat forward (his legs are about 3 feet longer than mine ) you can tell that everything is within easy reach of the driver. the loop spoiler, contrary to what i have thought before from pics, looks really good on the car. so do the chrome rotary trim peices front and back. and man the head and tail lights are just works of art. i got to hear him start it up and drive away a little later. it sounded really good and i was really sad to see it go without out my own to drive home in . but then my wife turned me around so i could see the shelby cobra and the 2 '67 mustang gt500's that were parked nearby and i cheered up a little. oh yeah and His cosmo is a fantastic car also!!

boowana

Thanks brad for all the info. I was curious to know if there is any specific "break in" period covered in the Owner's manual. Also, what does the recommended maintenance schedule look like/ Thanks very much.

boowana:p

pelucidor

Let me get this right - you have the Grand Touring package and the car does not have automatic climate control, whereas in other countries the base car has automatic climate control. Why is Mazda short-changing the USA again (remember the 6CD changer)?

As several 'luxury' touches have been dropped for the US market for no obvious reason I really hope the car is spectacular to drive at all speeds and at all times. My last 4 vehicles have had climate control - I set it once and never touch it again. I hate adjusting AC dials constantly as it's yet another distraction.

mantisflie

Thanks 3rotor! Best review I've read (probably 'cuz it's by a real person). All the more excited to get mine. One question though. How protected is the NavDvd (not sure what you call it, but the slot where you insert the discs)? I haven't really seen any pictures of it installed in the center ridge, but does it have a cover or is it at risk from someone spilling their soda from the back cupholders? Thanks for the review!!:D

P00Man

tried to post this earlier, comps been wierd today..

great review, car sounds awesome (yours) cant wait till i get mine
realyl upset about the air though, tahts my biggest qualm with this car, it bothers me to the point of considering other vehicles...maybe i can install one...ill never do it though........pretty upset about it.
anyawy, pitty about the Bose though, although i guesse 8/10 is pretty good, and it shoud be fine for me, though i have to admit, volvos have great sound, its the dolby digital 5.1 and the surround they use, but i dont know if your car had that.

but yeah, the climate control things bugs me a lot...
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Superfan

The auto climate control thing might just be software. Maybe later on we could flash the ecu with the code. There might also be a thermostat but it's prob built in already.

BRx8

yea, i hate the fact that auto climate control isn't standard or that the 6-Disc changer isn't either...but then again, i guess i'd rather have the Hi-Power Renesis vs. the Lo-Power one most Europe is getting, the standard 6-disc and climate control was prolly just a consolation prize for a slower car

3Rotor

I think people "sweating" (pun intended) over the A/c is not warranted. The **** is like 6 inches from the shift lever. If it's not cool aenough for you, turn it up - it really isn't a big deal. As for the Nav, the module sits in its own protected case with a door and in a cubby that is not connected to the rear cup holder area. It would take effort to get soda in or on the unit - again don't worry. Ergonomically this car is a 9.5 - they really have put a tremendous amount of thought (harmonious design - japanese "takumi" into it). Buy it and drive it!

BRx8

on the subject of the nav, have you been able to check and see if you can place a regular DVD in there or if you see any input jacks whatsoever?

also, about the auto climate control, it's not the fact that it's a hassle, it's the principal...the fact that it's a standard feature elsewhere but in the US...that's all...it's also a cool gadget for people like me that like cool gadgets...for the price of the car almost all its' competitors feature the auto climate control...and also, i've always wanted one