question about engine swaps
03-11-2012, 06:34 AM
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question about engine swaps
yes im new here on this forum, and have a low number of posts .
i've tried using the search and i have a specific swap in mind 1jz gte
i've found a 2 or 3 threads but none are detailed about how they did it or what was needed to swap it in.
and i know im going to get flamed for this because everyone here loves rotary .
i have nothing against it .
but i would like to know what is needed to properly swap a 1jz gte into the rx8 and if anyone knows a link or proper place that has the information im looking for please direct me there or pm me :D
any kind of feed back is appreciated .
i've tried using the search and i have a specific swap in mind 1jz gte
i've found a 2 or 3 threads but none are detailed about how they did it or what was needed to swap it in.
and i know im going to get flamed for this because everyone here loves rotary .
i have nothing against it .
but i would like to know what is needed to properly swap a 1jz gte into the rx8 and if anyone knows a link or proper place that has the information im looking for please direct me there or pm me :D
any kind of feed back is appreciated .
03-11-2012, 09:38 AM
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What sup with all the swaps?
so these people think it's harder to fix their engines properly than doing a swap?
oh u want 500 hp? you seriously need 500 hp for street? Are you too poor to afford a Supra ?
if u have to ask, you can't afford it/you don't know how to do it.
so these people think it's harder to fix their engines properly than doing a swap?
oh u want 500 hp? you seriously need 500 hp for street? Are you too poor to afford a Supra ?
if u have to ask, you can't afford it/you don't know how to do it.
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03-11-2012, 12:09 PM
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@nycgps i can afford to do it and its not a problem really. and does it matter if i want to have 500 hp on the street? and seriously even if i cant afford a supra why cant i go a different route to achieve what i want? its not what you want so why would you even say what you just said?
and a cars a car. and yes ive done 1jzgte swap for another car "everyones favourite TOYOTA CRESSIDA" just not a rx8 and it dont hurt to ask.
how the car is modded or driven is all up to the owner and if your a "rotard" like what i read in a previous thread i can see why you hate swaps . but other than that what i want to do is of course for me not for you "DON'T hate APPRECIATE"
@oldragger thanks and i need to do more searching before jumping on this swap i dont want to do any cutting or beating to get something to fit if it doesnt. and i have no clue what i need aside from engine and harness like if i need custom engine mounts or something like that.
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and a cars a car. and yes ive done 1jzgte swap for another car "everyones favourite TOYOTA CRESSIDA" just not a rx8 and it dont hurt to ask.
how the car is modded or driven is all up to the owner and if your a "rotard" like what i read in a previous thread i can see why you hate swaps . but other than that what i want to do is of course for me not for you "DON'T hate APPRECIATE"
@oldragger thanks and i need to do more searching before jumping on this swap i dont want to do any cutting or beating to get something to fit if it doesnt. and i have no clue what i need aside from engine and harness like if i need custom engine mounts or something like that.
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03-11-2012, 03:10 PM
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@nycgps i can afford to do it and its not a problem really. and does it matter if i want to have 500 hp on the street? and seriously even if i cant afford a supra why cant i go a different route to achieve what i want? its not what you want so why would you even say what you just said?
and a cars a car. and yes ive done 1jzgte swap for another car "everyones favourite TOYOTA CRESSIDA" just not a rx8 and it dont hurt to ask.
how the car is modded or driven is all up to the owner and if your a "rotard" like what i read in a previous thread i can see why you hate swaps . but other than that what i want to do is of course for me not for you "DON'T hate APPRECIATE"
@oldragger thanks and i need to do more searching before jumping on this swap i dont want to do any cutting or beating to get something to fit if it doesnt. and i have no clue what i need aside from engine and harness like if i need custom engine mounts or something like that.
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and a cars a car. and yes ive done 1jzgte swap for another car "everyones favourite TOYOTA CRESSIDA" just not a rx8 and it dont hurt to ask.
how the car is modded or driven is all up to the owner and if your a "rotard" like what i read in a previous thread i can see why you hate swaps . but other than that what i want to do is of course for me not for you "DON'T hate APPRECIATE"
@oldragger thanks and i need to do more searching before jumping on this swap i dont want to do any cutting or beating to get something to fit if it doesnt. and i have no clue what i need aside from engine and harness like if i need custom engine mounts or something like that.
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Oh btw, u can't even SEARCH? Awwwww
03-11-2012, 03:14 PM
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It's not that hard of a swap if...
you have the right knowledge, tools, time to research, brain to learn and money.
The reason why swaps look so hard and are ever barely completed is because of retards that start them without the know how and budget to finish them, then spread false myths.
you have the right knowledge, tools, time to research, brain to learn and money.
The reason why swaps look so hard and are ever barely completed is because of retards that start them without the know how and budget to finish them, then spread false myths.
03-11-2012, 05:39 PM
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@nycgps yes i did use the search there were only a few saying they've completed the swap and wasnt enough details provided like what parts needed , what needs to be done to fit the engine in. wire harness pins ecu and the rest of the stuff.
btw the car isnt ruined its just modified , if you dont like the mod dont do it thats all there is to do. stop trolling.
@bse50 i have the tools and money just not the knowledge because this is the first rotary ive owned , and i know 1jz-gte dont come from the US and all data even dealership doesnt have info on 1jz gte. which was why im asking around . and another thing is yes ive searched and used google also incase u ask like the guy above mentioned. the are tons of in depth guides or topics about swapping that particular engine in other cars but not the rx8 its almost like a rare animal species. and i dont want to do an lsx or any ls series swap . having an american motor in a japanese car isnt my cup of tea. just my opinion and awesome ride to all those that have done it or is considering . to me it just makes me feel better to have a jdm motor in a jdm car.
btw the car isnt ruined its just modified , if you dont like the mod dont do it thats all there is to do. stop trolling.
@bse50 i have the tools and money just not the knowledge because this is the first rotary ive owned , and i know 1jz-gte dont come from the US and all data even dealership doesnt have info on 1jz gte. which was why im asking around . and another thing is yes ive searched and used google also incase u ask like the guy above mentioned. the are tons of in depth guides or topics about swapping that particular engine in other cars but not the rx8 its almost like a rare animal species. and i dont want to do an lsx or any ls series swap . having an american motor in a japanese car isnt my cup of tea. just my opinion and awesome ride to all those that have done it or is considering . to me it just makes me feel better to have a jdm motor in a jdm car.
03-11-2012, 05:45 PM
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If you have the tools and money then you still lack the knowledge, as you pointed out.
Making a swap at home is not for everybody as it involves several areas that span from electrical (wiring, tuning, whatever) to mechanical (custom bellhousings or transmission mounts, drivetrain mods, sub frame\motor cradle fabrication and modification etc).
If you can read our ecu's pin diagram and understand it while also knowing what standalone pcm to use then you're in a good position already. The fabrication part is probably the easiest..
Making a swap at home is not for everybody as it involves several areas that span from electrical (wiring, tuning, whatever) to mechanical (custom bellhousings or transmission mounts, drivetrain mods, sub frame\motor cradle fabrication and modification etc).
If you can read our ecu's pin diagram and understand it while also knowing what standalone pcm to use then you're in a good position already. The fabrication part is probably the easiest..
03-11-2012, 06:10 PM
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yea i still lack the knowledge as i havent had any experience with swaps at all , i just rebuild engines , fix them and maintain them.
and i have been doing some research , just the electrical part isnt something i can say that im too good at as for the fabricating i really dont know what exactly needs to be done for that part.
and i have heard that the 6 spd from our cars can bolt up to the 1jz gte no problem its just a matter of fitting the engine in and what needs to be done with the wire harness.
not afraid to ask what i dont know , and i'm not going to be cocky about something if i know it and someones asking i will answer honestly.
and i have been doing some research , just the electrical part isnt something i can say that im too good at as for the fabricating i really dont know what exactly needs to be done for that part.
and i have heard that the 6 spd from our cars can bolt up to the 1jz gte no problem its just a matter of fitting the engine in and what needs to be done with the wire harness.
not afraid to ask what i dont know , and i'm not going to be cocky about something if i know it and someones asking i will answer honestly.
03-11-2012, 07:10 PM
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if its the 2004-2008 6 speed trans--then you may not want it. It has its share of problems. The 2009-2011 trans are much better--same bolt pattern. The diff can probably take a little over 400hp? There are additional diff braces out there. With the oem drive train--remember the final drive ratio will have you turning about 3.5Krpms at about 70mph. That may not be good for the build you have in mind? The automatic car has a higher diff ratio ( under 4 I think) that could help with that.
are you shooting to have all the dash working--cruise control, ABS etc?
The swaps i have seen and heard about mainly use the oem pcm to drive the abs, electric power steering etc and then use a standalone for the engine.
Get er done!
are you shooting to have all the dash working--cruise control, ABS etc?
The swaps i have seen and heard about mainly use the oem pcm to drive the abs, electric power steering etc and then use a standalone for the engine.
Get er done!
03-11-2012, 07:56 PM
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Voids warranties
Heres a 2jz swap. Might give you some good ideas.
https://www.rx8club.com/non-rotary-swaps-196/2jz-gte-swap-lots-pics-148145/
https://www.rx8club.com/non-rotary-swaps-196/2jz-gte-swap-lots-pics-148145/
03-11-2012, 09:30 PM
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@ olddragger -yea my rx8 is a 2004 model, and yes i do want the gauges in the dash to work . the cruise control is not really important to me i hardly use it . and yes i do want to get it done .
im doing my research now , digging around and asking once everything is ready and i got all the research completed i will get started on it.
@Godesshunter thank you i saw that thread during the search , was hoping there was one with pictures so i can have a better idea.
@nycgps no i will not disappear from the forums. even if the swap fails or succeeds i will still be around . and like i said if u hate the idea so much stop trolling my thread and go post elsewhere.
im doing my research now , digging around and asking once everything is ready and i got all the research completed i will get started on it.
@Godesshunter thank you i saw that thread during the search , was hoping there was one with pictures so i can have a better idea.
@nycgps no i will not disappear from the forums. even if the swap fails or succeeds i will still be around . and like i said if u hate the idea so much stop trolling my thread and go post elsewhere.
03-12-2012, 09:34 AM
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sounds like it will be a sweet build. I think the 09 fuel pump will also help--but if you are going to 500 rwhp then you are probaly looking to do a return type system. There are threads that several people have done that.
You think you will be using the oem radiator/fans? If so then get a flex a lite dual fan controller with soft on feature and adjustable thermostat--the oem config is not that good for higher hp engines.
for that hp level the ppf may also need a little more support?
For gauge routing there is a spot under the WW tank ( used for europian left handed steering wheels) that can be accessed--makes it a little easier.
There is a lot of room between the firewall and the heater/blower dash frame etc--so if you end up having to beat on it--its ok.
You think you will be using the oem radiator/fans? If so then get a flex a lite dual fan controller with soft on feature and adjustable thermostat--the oem config is not that good for higher hp engines.
for that hp level the ppf may also need a little more support?
For gauge routing there is a spot under the WW tank ( used for europian left handed steering wheels) that can be accessed--makes it a little easier.
There is a lot of room between the firewall and the heater/blower dash frame etc--so if you end up having to beat on it--its ok.
03-12-2012, 02:24 PM
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No offense to the OP but...
but what's up with all these guys wanting to do JZ,Rb,SR etc. into rx8's?
I could see if the car was 10+ yr. old like 240sx and other cars that are much easier to work on and are understood by many. I mean for crying out loud I'm a newb in the Rotar world/rx8club but, good lord even I know it's a terrible Idea to swap in some exotic engine such as an LS1,or RB26 If you don't have at least $8,000 a swap like this is out of the question. not to mentnion getting it tuned and working right/splicing the harness what the drive/diff will handle so much to take in. Just rebuild your renesis for turbo and stop trying to use the 8 for 500hp street car, unless you have $8,000+^ spare dollars burning a hole in your pocket.
but what's up with all these guys wanting to do JZ,Rb,SR etc. into rx8's?
I could see if the car was 10+ yr. old like 240sx and other cars that are much easier to work on and are understood by many. I mean for crying out loud I'm a newb in the Rotar world/rx8club but, good lord even I know it's a terrible Idea to swap in some exotic engine such as an LS1,or RB26 If you don't have at least $8,000 a swap like this is out of the question. not to mentnion getting it tuned and working right/splicing the harness what the drive/diff will handle so much to take in. Just rebuild your renesis for turbo and stop trying to use the 8 for 500hp street car, unless you have $8,000+^ spare dollars burning a hole in your pocket.
03-12-2012, 03:16 PM
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8000?
Triple that amount even if you can do everything yourself. and no im not kidding.
But hey who am i to judge right? he can do anything he wants, he is so 1337 right?
At the end of the day, 99.999999% of these people just fail, then they just gonna blame the car for their own **** ups.
But again, who am i to judge ...
Triple that amount even if you can do everything yourself. and no im not kidding.
But hey who am i to judge right? he can do anything he wants, he is so 1337 right?
At the end of the day, 99.999999% of these people just fail, then they just gonna blame the car for their own **** ups.
But again, who am i to judge ...
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